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Old 09-02-2008, 04:44 PM
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Default 25NL- River decision w/ Straight on 4 flush boar

Same villain as other hand and I'm beginning to feel he is a donk.

PokerStars Game #20095912827: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/09/02 15:35:23 ET
Table 'Ampella IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: crystalbalz ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: mxrider ($44.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Shaka152 ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: svansi75 ($21.20 in chips)
Seat 6: Paryjane ($24.90 in chips)
crystalbalz: posts small blind $0.10
elfiera joins the table at seat #3
mxrider: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mxrider [Jd 8h]
Shaka152: folds
svansi75: calls $0.25
Paryjane: folds
crystalbalz: folds
mxrider: checks
*** FLOP *** [5d 2s Qs]
mxrider: checks
svansi75: checks
*** TURN *** [5d 2s Qs] [9s]
mxrider: checks
svansi75: checks
*** RIVER *** [5d 2s Qs 9s] [Ts]
mxrider: checks
svansi75: bets $0.75
mxrider????
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:53 PM
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At first I tought: why not call? its only 0.75 cent and we can see what he is holding. On the other hand: if the pot was 15$ and he bets even 5$, I'd fold.

I think you can fold this hand: you didnt invest any money in it so dont expekt a return on your investment.
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Call. It's cheap and he may just be bluffing w/air after he saw you check to him.
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What matters here is more his holdings than yours. If he is such a donk, he could maybe value-bet a low spade ?!
What you could have done is simply bet yourself, he's only going to have a spade ~1/2 of the time, so this move is already profitable.
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What matters here is more his holdings than yours. If he is such a donk, he could maybe value-bet a low spade ?!
What you could have done is simply bet yourself, he's only going to have a spade ~1/2 of the time, so this move is already profitable.
But what does betting here achieve? It folds out all hands I am ahead of and only hands that beat me call.
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Since this was during our sweat session, I know both what we thought, what mx did, and the result. We were right

Great read again mx
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That doesn't mean anything.
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He needs to have a very high bluffing frequency in this spot to make calling profitable. Have you seen him overbet before?
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It's worth 75c just to see what he's doing it with for future reference.
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i agree that calling does two things, one makes us money when we are right, and two gives you an adea of how he is playing certain hands. it is too cheap to fold. and at these lower stakes i see people betting in light, even though i was according to pot, with nothing. i always call in these spots and take it down about 70% of the time. i feel that typically when they have a decent flush card they are trying to over bet significantly in hopes to get value and look bluffy, and when they have a low spade they are too affraid to bet because the know they are not strong and would rather take down the pot without a fight.
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