50NL - AA on the turn

[SebastianKnight]

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HAND #1
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Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players


BB: $137.85 (275.7 bb)
Hero (UTG): $72.25 (144.5 bb)
MP: $54 (108 bb)
CO: $21.30 (42.6 bb)
BTN: $39.25 (78.5 bb)
SB: $50 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG with A ♣ A ♦
Hero raises to $1.75[/color], MP calls $1.75, CO folds, BTN calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($7.50) 3 ♦ 3 ♥ 9 ♥ (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.50, MP calls $7.50, BTN folds, SB folds

Turn: ($22.50) 6 ♥ (2 players)


Villain is relatively new to the table, so no stats on him as yet, but he gives every indication of being the weak, loose, passive, fit-or-fold calling station sort of fellow. On an earlier hand, after calling a button opener from the SB, he donked pot at an AsTs3h flop, bet 3/4 pot when Kc turned, and check folded with only 20bb left in his stack when 6s came on the river.

Your bet.

[zayphod]

I am opening for more than 1.75 (say at least $2 or $2.2). Would bet a little less on the flop. He is still not getting the odds to call the draw with a smaller bet. Did he hit the flush on the turn, who knows, bet and find out otherwise you are going to give him a free card to draw to hearts again. Im sticking in about $15 here and then seeing what he does.

[given1982]

I like bet/fold 15.

[mxrider]

prior to replying to the turn action, on such a dry flop, why the pot size bet? Especially if he seems to be a fit or fold type player.

[mxrider]

Originally Posted by zayphod

I am opening for more than 1.75 (say at least $2 or $2.2).

Why? That is pushing out too many hands that we want to get money from. I don't want just the blinds with Aces.

Would bet a little less on the flop. He is still not getting the odds to call the draw with a smaller bet. Did he hit the flush on the turn, who knows, bet and find out otherwise you are going to give him a free card to draw to hearts again. Im sticking in about $15 here and then seeing what he does.

I'm liking this part however

[SebastianKnight]

It seems to me that the fact there are 4 players in the pot calls for a full pot bet. I'd hate to pick up two callers. Disagree?

[loltrickedu]

the pair of 3s is pretty good for AA, there are alot of draws, im trying to get the money in on the turn

[zayphod]

mxrider, I was advocating a bigger preflop bet because we are under the gun and even though we have aces, there is nothing worse than getting someone calling and then having 3 other people tagging along because they are getting awesome odds.

I hates that

[SebastianKnight]

Originally Posted by loltrickedu

the pair of 3s is pretty good for AA, there are alot of draws, im trying to get the money in on the turn

What's the best approach against this type of player? Slight overbet, maybe? $25 or so?

[zayphod]

I am curious to know what is the best approach here as well, since it would seem that if we do make any move other than a push (where we have decided that he does not have the flush) and he calls with four to the flush say, while a call would be a mistake on his behalf, does he not always have the correct odds to call our final river push? This assumes that we make a larger turn bet as opposed to a smaller turn bet.