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Old 09-05-2008, 11:39 PM
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Default Ok call pre?

UTG (14/12) raise 1.75,
i call 1.75 with 66 in MP,
button (16/13) reraises to 7.5
UTG calls his reraise (7.5)

is it ok for me to call also to setmine since i close the action preflop?
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:47 PM
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Depends on stack sizes.

Probably not.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:03 AM
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for sure stack size dependant. if the ration of implied odds 15+, then yes call. you are in position. Pot odds are not that bad and implied odds are perfect.
Just keep in mind one thing you'll hit your set 1/8 times. GL with that
Cause if you hit. You stack one of the guys. JUst shove all in on the flop, or get all the money in as soon as possible
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:14 AM
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they where both deepstacked, so a call would be ok?
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:18 AM
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If you think either (or both) will stack off w/ an overpair then calling isn't horrible because you're getting an immediate 3-1ish and you're deep. You have to be sure one of them will go broke if you hit though, otherwise this is just pure spew.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:36 PM
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as said here you have to be deep. i usually would like to see the effective stacks around 200bb to call a 3bet. you might be able to call with less effective stacks but this is usually what i go by.

if someone knows the number of bb stacks needed for a call like this i would love to hear
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:51 PM
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HI.it doesn't matter about your stack, though 100+ is better (and should be all the time, though I usually currently buy for 60BB).
You get your third 6 you stack up one of this guys for sure. Just try to get all money in in that case on the flop.
I noticed 1 thing, the guy with overpair stacks easily on the flop, then postflop(Turn, river). The reason is that he thinks that you might shove with TP.
On the turn he changes his point to 2p or set, and 60% of the time folds to reraise, but of course almost never folds AA,KK
as LolTrickedU said I Pay off 100% of the time with AA,KK on non-scared board to set,cause in the long run this way is more profitable. Don't forget AA,KK 80%
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HI.it doesn't matter about your stack
Yes it does. Entirely.
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Old 09-06-2008, 02:54 PM
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I would dump this even being deep a lot. People will play much more cautiously 200BBs deep with like AA/KK in a 3way 3-bet pot. So I would probably fold.
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