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Old 11-21-2008, 12:48 AM
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Just curious if you guys think I played this too tight. MP guy had been playing a lot of pots, but not raising that many. I was playing with the guy in the SB on another table and had seen him raise 3x and 4x with AQ/AJ type hands, but I hadn't seen him 3 bet on either table, so I wasn't entirely sure what to make of it...other than I figured he was strong.

Cake Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (5 handed) - Cake-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($2.29)
Hero (BB) ($4.56)
UTG ($0.72)
MP ($2.78)

Preflop: Hero is BB with ,
UTG calls $0.04, MP raises to $0.14, SB raises to $0.46, 2 folds, MP calls $0.32

Flop: ($1) , , (2 players)
SB checks, MP bets $1, 1 fold

Total pot: $1 | Rake: $0.05

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If it's not clear, I folded PF. I know with AK I'm no worse than 2-1 to anything other than Aces or Kings. Anyway, thoughts are appreciated...and I'll explain my line of thinking at some point.

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Old 11-21-2008, 12:54 AM
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Top Pair/Top Kicker isn't a bad spot to get your money in. Think about what the best possible hand is there, compare it to the range you have established for him, and make the best decision possible.

if I was in your spot here, I would re-raise and pray the villian doesn't hold AA/99/33 or the unlikely KK. Your mission should be to price a flush draw out of the pot.
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Old 11-21-2008, 12:58 AM
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its tight... but quite possibly right in my personal opinion. But then im still playing 2nl so im not the most reliable source.
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Old 11-21-2008, 12:59 AM
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Top Pair/Top Kicker isn't a bad spot to get your money in. Think about what the best possible hand is there, compare it to the range you have established for him, and make the best decision possible.

if I was in your spot here, I would re-raise and pray the villian doesn't hold AA/99/33 or the unlikely KK. Your mission should be to price a flush draw out of the pot.
Didn't he fold preflop
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:04 AM
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Hero folded pre-flop?

Edit: Yeah, I guess he did. I didn't see that. I change my answer then. Yes, I think folding AKos at a .02/.04 table is a little tight In this case it may have been the right move, but in the long run it seems like a -EV fold.

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Old 11-21-2008, 04:14 AM
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I think a 3 bet at 4nl on cake would signify a ton of strength, ie KK+. The fact that he folded on the flop means that he couldn't beat a pair of kings so that should tell you something about his 3 betting range and that it is not limited to KK+,AK.

Also in that situation with AK with him only having ~50BB and putting in ~12BB preflop It is either a shove or a fold, think about the hands he will most likely be 3 betting with. AA, KK, QQ, AK.

AA is going to continue on almost every flop (when you flop an A or K you will be stacked)
KK will shutdown vs an A high flop a lot of the time (you get no value)
QQ will shutdown on an A/K high flop a lot of the time (you get no value)

Which is why I would never advocate calling vs a short stack with AK, you're going to want to see all 5 cards if you decide to play the hand.
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Old 11-21-2008, 12:58 PM
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Next time u post the hand just show the streets (or none) that are relevant otherwise people get confused =p

Anyways its a tight fold but boomswitch has got a good point.
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1. It's only 4handed
2. They are not full stacks and have 50-75BB

=> puuuuuuuuush ^^
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Old 11-21-2008, 07:18 PM
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Thanks for the responses. When I saw the first guy raise, I was planning on reraising him, but when the second guy raised I wasn't as sure. I never really considered calling...I figured my play was push or fold. After looking back on it, I think that pushing was the probably the right play.
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:46 AM
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i think u r playing way to tight. it is .02/.04 and it is 4 handed so he probaly has something like AQ, AJ or JJ 10 10 99
and sometimes AA KK
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