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Old 11-30-2008, 07:34 PM
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I have gone back to basics with my poker as i taken all my dosh out bar $25 at Party Poker and will now grind it back @ $66 so far - I just needed my poker money for Xmas - business is crap

I have not played full ring properly for a good while and was unsure what to do with this hand against a raise as I have been kicked in the balls with KK against AA limp pushes and min raise pushes over the last few days

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$4.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 30, 05:46:24 ET 2008
Table Table 128120 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: colombiano65 ( $3.87 USD )
Seat 4: tbvle ( $5.00 USD )
Seat 5: kuuyamurai ( $1.98 USD )
Seat 6: bracek ( $5.23 USD )
Seat 9: Vanbah ( $3.24 USD )
Seat 10: No_saintXX ( $4.47 USD )
Seat 8: HERO ( $5.40 USD )
Seat 2: AnMaCi ( $2.28 USD )
Seat 3: aliM1803 ( $7.31 USD )
Seat 7: bozof ( $3.76 USD )
kuuyamurai posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
bracek posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO[ Qc Qd ]
bozof calls [$0.04 USD]
HERO raises [$0.20 USD]
Vanbah folds
No_saintXX folds
colombiano65 folds
AnMaCi folds
aliM1803 calls [$0.20 USD]
tbvle folds
kuuyamurai folds
bracek folds
bozof raises [$1.96 USD]
HERO ????
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:29 PM
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well its really villian dependent... Whats the history between you 2 have you been iso'ing alot? Has he seen you showdown anything light that you have iso'd with? Is this opponent willing to shove 77-JJ because he is frustrated by a previous hand and thinks you are making a move?

If this was a solid player that would never do this without AA or KK then maybe I'm folding.
I just dont give people credit. but honestly you only have $0.20 invested and with no reads is it really worth flipping the coin when you dont know what he does this with yet. If this was the first time he has done this I am folding.
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:52 AM
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Since you want to build your BR and this play should be a premium hand most of the time, I would fold here, if I were you
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:10 AM
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No history with the guy - but I have stats which i forgot to put up 46/11/4.9 over 158 hands - I am a bit new to HM so not sure what i should be looking for when they do this - 46 vpip seems loose though.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:03 AM
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I snap this off every time, but I don't think it's hugely +EV, and if you want to avoid variance, it's ok to fold.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:13 AM
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yeah people definately do this with AK and JJ, but obviously AA and KK
Its 50/50.
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Old 12-02-2008, 04:37 AM
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thanks Guys - In the end i did not know what to do and as I want to try and build my small roll back up, I folded felt weak though.

I got this one last night and again when he pots the J high flop I just felt aaaarggg what now

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.02/$0.04
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $6.00
UTG+1: $4.98
MP1: $6.63
Hero: $5.02
CO: $4.84
Button: $5.37
SB: $5.15 - stats are 9/5/ 719 hands
BB: $5.06

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with :td :ts
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: :4c :3h :jh ($0.48, 3 players)
SB bets $0.46, BB folds, Hero ????

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Old 12-02-2008, 08:10 AM
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vs nits i dump it
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