min raise on the river - spell doom!!!

[puntalara]

This guy was 74/5 over 288 hands. I was not sure if my bet on the river was right - then he min raises - I am beat aint I what now, I just cant fold can I. What a HORRID river card for me.


Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.02/$0.04
8 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with :qs :ah
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: :kc :tc :9s ($0.3, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.22, Button calls.

Turn: :js ($0.74, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.53, Button calls.

River: :4c ($1.8, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.28, Button raises to $2.56,

[TheDeKay]

Did I misread the HH or do we have the nutstraight and only the flush beats us (and he needs 2 clubs for that)? He might think a Q is good here
Against this player I just pot the turn.

[dansiek]

Ugh i think this is a flush sooo much of the time, we could make a crying call but we know we are beaten.
You dont have to call anything btw. Sometimes u jst gta fold.

[puntalara]

Did I misread the HH or do we have the nutstraight and only the flush beats us (and he needs 2 clubs for that)? He might think a Q is good here. Against this player I just pot the turn.

Thats what I thought.


Ugh i think this is a flush sooo much of the time, we could make a crying call but we know we are beaten.
You dont have to call anything btw. Sometimes u jst gta fold.


I just had to have a look with my nutstraight, as the pots odds were good - he showed Q9 clubs, so he was never going to fold on the turn

[Aji89]

Originally Posted by puntalara

he showed Q9 clubs, so he was never going to fold on the turn [/B]

You shouldn't think about it this way. The more money you can get him to put in the pot behind on the turn, the more $ it is to you in ev terms. This is basically the point of potting the turn.

[Spinage]

Just make a note that he c/calls draws and bets river when they hit... I find this is one of the MOST common notes I make.

It is very very very very common, but some astute players will bluff here... 4nl - probably just has the flush 95% of the time, and yet KNOWING this, I still call nearly all the time, unless I've seen them do the same line before.