NL100 - AK squeeze

[Tsorp]

hey guys,

played this hand with a friend of mine... the guy who calls the 3bet OTB is pretty decent... I would assume his range is mostly weighted towards pockets pairs... 22-TT. I think he 3bets JJ+,AK vs CO here. We were just wondering what you thought of the river shove.. My friend doesnt have an image of squeezing light against this player and would check/raise this turn with overpairs.. what do you think of the river shove (overbet) with AK against a decent player? Effective stacks were 97$ and pot around 89. He doesnt have an image of getting out of line too much either

PokerStars Game #828012370000317: Hold'em No Limit ($0,5/$1) - 2009-04-07 - 00:37:06 (ET)
Table 'Cake_ Chelsea 12370' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Ban*** ($116.45 in chips)
Seat 2: LOL*** ($17.00 in chips)
Seat 3: taka*** ($123.65 in chips)
Seat 4: inev*** ($140.87 in chips)
Seat 5: ksfa*** ($52.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($184.75 in chips)
Seat 7: sgra*** ($60.00 in chips)
Seat 8: calj*** ($101.40 in chips)
Seat 9: YYia*** ($62.00 in chips)
Seat 10: bcoy*** ($41.95 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0,50
sgra***: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kd Ac]
calj***: folds
YYia***: folds
bcoy***: folds
Ban***: folds
LOL***: folds
taka***: raises $3.00 to $4.00
inev***: calls $4.00
ksfa***: folds
Hero: raises $14.00 to $18.00
sgra***: folds
taka***: folds
inev***: calls $14.00
*** FLOP *** [7d 9d 2c]
Hero: bets $25.50
inev***: calls $25.50
*** TURN *** [7d 9d 2c] [9c]
Hero: checks
inev***: checks
*** RIVER *** [7d 9d 2c 9c] [9s]
Hero: bets $141.25 and is all-in

[postoakpoker]

hero's line doesn't really rep anything; why would he check his overpairs back on the turn? surely the 9 isn't a very scary card in a 3bet pot, and while it's unlikely the villain has a fd, there are 2 on the board. hero's also not going to c/f an overpair with those PSR's, so taking pot controlling lines doesn't make any sense. the only time I could see hero repping a hand with the turn check is if villain is very floatly. however, u said that villain is decent and if he's a thinking player (and i'm not sure he is calling a 3bet with a likely pp with those effective stack sizes), I think he looks you up with any pocket pair.

[given1982]

This is pretty spewy. This is not a good flop to cbet, especially given the range that you put him on. I just c/f. On the river, aside from the fact that you don't rep anything, you're forgetting the Zeebo theorem. You put him almost exclusively on full houses and you're trying to fold him off them. Even if he is competent, I'm not trying to get a 100NL player to fold a boat.

P.S. If you're trying to hide your buddy's screen name, you didn't do a great job.

[Tsorp]

Originally Posted by postoakpoker

hero's line doesn't really rep anything; why would he check his overpairs back on the turn? surely the 9 isn't a very scary card in a 3bet pot, and while it's unlikely the villain has a fd, there are 2 on the board. hero's also not going to c/f an overpair with those PSR's, so taking pot controlling lines doesn't make any sense. the only time I could see hero repping a hand with the turn check is if villain is very floatly. however, u said that villain is decent and if he's a thinking player (and i'm not sure he is calling a 3bet with a likely pp with those effective stack sizes), I think he looks you up with any pocket pair.

We were getting pretty drunk when we played this hand and maybe weren't thinking clearly at the time but why wouldn't we play an overpair this way? I wouldn't have checked this turn to pot control with an overpair but rather to get villain to make a mistake if he's floating.. I think I would do this some of the time at least, depending on the opponent.

The range I assigned to him was mostly because I was pretty sure he 3bets JJ+, AK in this situation considering opening raiser isn't too tight..

Another problem in this hand I think was our sizing on the flop, even with an overpair i wouldn't have known how much to bet on the turn, because of stack and pot size..

[Tsorp]

Originally Posted by given1982

This is pretty spewy. This is not a good flop to cbet, especially given the range that you put him on. I just c/f. On the river, aside from the fact that you don't rep anything, you're forgetting the Zeebo theorem. You put him almost exclusively on full houses and you're trying to fold him off them. Even if he is competent, I'm not trying to get a 100NL player to fold a boat.

P.S. If you're trying to hide your buddy's screen name, you didn't do a great job.

I just want to know given my friend's image, are you still calling with 66-TT here on the river? I mean any pocket pair is a bluff catcher and you're pretty much hoping he's going crazy with AK, AQ which he usually doesn't and I'm assuming this oppenent realizes that.

fwiw, I don't think this hand was well played and normally my default would have been to c/f, but I don't believe it's such an easy call from villain's perspective.

P.S. Thanks :P

[given1982]

Originally Posted by Tsorp

I just want to know given my friend's image, are you still calling with 66-TT here on the river? I mean any pocket pair is a bluff catcher and you're pretty much hoping he's going crazy with AK, AQ which he usually doesn't and I'm assuming this oppenent realizes that.

fwiw, I don't think this hand was well played and normally my default would have been to c/f, but I don't believe it's such an easy call from villain's perspective.

P.S. Thanks :P

You can get yourself into a lot of trouble with this kind of thinking--he "shouldn't" call here, so it's a good bluff spot. The reason that the game is profitable is because people don't do what they "should" do.