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[quadfive]

My play ok?

Don't have much time i'll add comments later..

Villain is 29/19/6 over 45 hands

[ThatDeviant]

Not a fan of flatting the 4bet OOP but postflop is standard.

[quadfive]

i think a shove pre is getting called by kk & aa mostly & folding out the rest. Think he calls my 5bet shove w/ JJ/ AK ?? no often enough.....

then on that flop i figure my line was the best..

[TheDeKay]

Originally Posted by quadfive

Think he calls my 5bet shove w/ JJ/ AK ?? no often enough.....

Folding out AK would be a huuuge thing for us actually

[ThatDeviant]

Yup.

Also if you think he'd 4bet JJ, then he's not folding now and it's better to get it in than it is to lose all his action on an A/K board.

[quadfive]

you don't think JJ bet/folds here?

So the correct move is to shove preflop. see AA/KK 70-80% of the time & JJ/AK 10%.. Him fold 10%?????

looks like i should be 3 bet/folding pre... or just flatting his standard open?

[ThatDeviant]

I don't think he'd ever 4b/fold here w/ JJ or AK, no.

I 5bet ship so that JJ is crushed and we don't lose action, and so that AK can't miss the flop and we don't lose his action either.

+ if you think his range is SOOOO heavily weighed towards AA/KK then we should just fold to the 4bet. I'd never, ever flat QQ pre OOP. Your 3bet is perfectly fine.

[loltrickedu]

don't flat 4 bets 100 bb deep. In fr i wouldnt really get it in with QQ. Taking a flop all you are really doing is allowing the only hand you beat, ak, to fold out.

[chinz]

AK would either jam or check/fold the flop, you beat nothing when you shove here. The only hand you could beat here is AK and he wouldn't play it like that.
-> fold or shove preflop

preflop folding>shoving>calling in fullring.

[chinz]

Originally Posted by ThatDeviant

I don't think he'd ever 4b/fold here w/ JJ or AK, no.

When is the last time you saw 29/16 guy 4betting JJ in full ring with 107bb effective stacks?

Originally Posted by ThatDeviant

I 5bet ship so that JJ is crushed and we don't lose action, and so that AK can't miss the flop and we don't lose his action either.

I would rather shove AQ here in 6max than QQ in fullring... That is just plain awful imo. His range is mostly only KK and AA here, just because most people don't 4bet AK in FR.

If we use QQ+ and AKs (only suited, just to compensate the fact that most of the time AK calls or folds) as his range, we have only 28.5% equity, which is not enough to make shoving profitable, unless you do believe that we have a notable amount of folding equity, but I don't.