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Old 04-21-2009, 02:11 PM
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Default Bottom set gets bet into...

Villain is 14/11/4.5 over 1700 hands..

I raised this drawy flop, looking back maybe 10-11$ would have been smarter...

How do we proceed & what range are we putting him on, King w/ a FD? Flush? over set?




Edit: I have no great notes/history of going to battle vs. this reg.

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Old 04-21-2009, 02:20 PM
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I believe he has AK, and has a nut flush draw. I would shove the turn(4 bet... same thing). I think if he had a bigger hand, such as a set, he wouldn't bet call with that dangerous of a flop. With AK, and a back door nut flush draw, he calls flop, then bets out hoping to take the pot down on turn, and if you reraise it and have a better hand, he has plenty of outs. Take what I say with a grain of salt, I don't have much experience with cash ring games. I would be interisted in what he actually had, or what others think. Good post.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:23 PM
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Looks like he's bet folding to me.

I don't expect a 14/11 to be opening many suited connecters UTG, so the only possible flush here is like AQs. He could quite easily have something like AK w/ the Ad or QQ with a diamond.

Having said that, I just push him in now and chalk it up to a cooler if he set/set you.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:28 PM
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Never thought of QQ, but that would seem like a line someone with QQ(one being dim) would play this hand too.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:58 PM
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i flat the turn because i felt if I shove I'm getting called by this:AxAd AQdd AJdd KK 99 (TT doubftul) AK (Ace daimond)

and chances are these hands fold: AK, QQ(daimond maybe calls maybe folds), random shit

so a shove seems to be value playing myself....

I told myself any river brick & I'm going broke... that river can't be anymore of a brick...

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Old 04-21-2009, 03:34 PM
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Does a 14/11 even raise AJs or 99 from UTG+1 in full ring? There are barely any combos that have you crushed, and those are compensated for by AdAx (why has no one mentioned this as a possible holding? I think it's near the top of the list) and AdKx. I'd shove the turn.
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Old 04-21-2009, 03:48 PM
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Does a 14/11 even raise AJs or 99 from UTG+1 in full ring? There are barely any combos that have you crushed, and those are compensated for by AdAx (why has no one mentioned this as a possible holding? I think it's near the top of the list) and AdKx. I'd shove the turn.
I had thought of AAd but forgot to add it on the post
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