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Old 05-21-2010, 05:26 PM
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Default 2 hands and a few questions

Hello guys, so far I've played 7500 hands of 10$ NL full ring and things aren't going too great. And that's beside the fact that I'm currently running 35$ under EV ajusted

So far I'm not having trouble getting my money in good in a big pot (except KK vs AA, but, meh), I'm just running really bad in those. It's mostly the medium pots where it seems I always end up in situations I'm really confused about what's up and what range of hands I can put the opponents on and what I should do. So I suspect I'm spewing in those situations.

So here are 2 hands to illustrate:

Hand 1:
Villain is running: 16/2 over 164 hands, no 3bets, no donks (0/2). In the last orbit, he raised 2 hands and won both time some small pots, nothing special really beside that.

Question: on flop, what kind range of hand can I put him on realistically?

I thought, a set, TPTK, or a draw:something like AhKh, or JT, KJ - KT with 2 hearts. I thought that he'd play a slightly weaker draw like AhJh more passively in this case or that he'd c/raise flop. I suppose I can add AA and KK in his range als but it's less likely. Anyway, I think my flop call is pretty standard.

Turn is a good card for me: doesn't complete any draw and I get a flush draw. Now he bets pot again, which seems, from what I've seen so far is a lot more indicative of a made hand like a set or maybe AQ, AA or KK. Is my call correct in this spot? I figured, if he has a set, I'll stack him off if I hit the flush on river, so I got almost 20% of hitting and implied odds seems sufficient for me to call turn if I only stack off on a spade river, which doesn't pair the board.

Is this standard, is river a standard fold or I misplayed it (the whole hand)?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from

SB ($10.92)
BB ($9.83)
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($7.42)
Hero (MP1) ($12.38)
MP2 ($9.90)
CO ($11.91)
Button ($8.03)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, K
2 folds, Hero bets $0.35, 4 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) 3, Q, 9 (2 players)
BB bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.15) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $2.05, Hero calls $2.05

River: ($6.25) 10 (2 players)
BB bets $6.73 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $6.25

Hand 2:
Villain is 19/19 on 26 hands. No specific read

Is turn bet (or size) ok? Should I just check? He could have called flop with any pair 66+ and 33 or a draw, or a 6 like 76 or A6s, obviously.

What's the plan of action on river here, now that I bet turn and he flat called?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from

MP2 ($9.36)
MP3 ($6.98)
Hero (CO) ($10)
Button ($14.86)
SB ($11.85)
BB ($10)
UTG ($4.83)
UTG+1 ($11.46)
MP1 ($2.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A
5 folds, Hero bets $0.35, Button calls $0.35, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.10) 6, 6, 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, Button calls $0.80, 1 fold

Turn: ($2.70) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button calls $2

River: ($6.70) 2 (2 players)
Hero ???
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:36 PM
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I like how you played the first hand and your thought process.

Seems dumb to fold the flop right away, though you are crushed by his valuebet range. I think there is a (small) chance you are good or split on the flop somehow, in this case he might slow down on turn like always, so instafold turn UI. There is also a chance you will suck upon his AA by hitting Q or K. Or, the turn might give you a draw and he decide to slowplay and check or bet small for some reason (unlikely, but possible). So all this supports peeling once.

Nice that you hit flushdraw, and I agree he is very likely to pay when you hit, so big bet is sad but callable.

And your pair is always dead when he shoves the river, so folding is a proper decision.
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Old 05-21-2010, 09:43 PM
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For 2nd hand, I like a cbet, maybe you can bet a dollar cause he's either calling with PP or folding regardless.

For the turn, I think both bet-folding and check-calling might be ok, but I think readless the hand plays easier if you bet (and you get more value/protection vs hearted PP). Bet slightly more.

So, as played, check-fold the river. You beat only PPs in his range, and I don't advice you to be so optimistic to assume he bets them if your check, like ever.
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:33 PM
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in hand 2,

What about a small bet/fold on river ? Is that just spew without a read or would I get called by any over pair to that board?
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Old 05-23-2010, 06:52 PM
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Sort of a blocking bet... well maybe yes, you might get a bit more value from smaller PPs... I don't think this can be bad
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:42 AM
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1st hand is well played.
2nd hand both C/folding and blockbet/folding are good options. Given that these are micro stakes I'd go with a blockbet of 2-3$ and fold to a shove.
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