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Old 05-21-2010, 04:35 PM
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Default Stack off with second pair standard on AAJ board?

Another small question. Title says it all pretty much.

Villain is running 62/8 on 13 hands. No read.

Note: Flop call after min c/raise is a missclick, I meant to put him all-in.

Is this standard here or minraise = nuts ? Hmm...

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP3 ($9.36)
CO ($3.66)
Hero (Button) ($10)
SB ($14.91)
BB ($11.95)
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($4.83)
MP1 ($11.46)
MP2 ($2.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, J
5 folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.45, 2 folds, CO calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05) A, A, J (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.70, CO raises $1.40, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: ($3.85) 7 (2 players)
CO bets $1.81 (All-In), Hero calls $1.81

River: ($7.47) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $7.47
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Old 05-21-2010, 08:16 PM
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Can't agree this can be a (great) standard.

100bb deep, totally readless, I'm calling once planning to fold to further significant aggression unless a spade hits and he bets smallish giving a chance to chase a draw. Basically I hope he somehow did this with weaker hand and will realize you can have an A and freeze/slow down on turn/river, so you can win the pot or maybe split or look at his KJ, and obv take a note on him in any case. If he continues strong betting, you beat only bluffs or he might be crazy enough to bet small PP or worse J, but you should decide are you ready to call both turn & river shove with this assumption.

With 30-40 bb it's hard to fold to unknown fish @NL10 given you already invested much, and definitely there is a chance he doing it with worse. Anyway, I think there will be no bad turns for you and he will shove any hand he was ready to shove on the flop, plus some worse hands (+air) that he might have folded to your flop shove. So, again IMO calling is better than shoving the flop, obviously planning to stick in any turn somehow.
If you think you afraid of flop checkraise do not cbet cause really there are no scare cards for you (maybe K), and I don't think you are losing a lot of value. This will let you call his bets easier cause his range will be wider.
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