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Old 06-02-2010, 11:14 AM
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Default KK: 4 way facing overdonk bet

Hey guys, obviously I'm posting because I was beat

Seriously, my question is a lot more about regarding Villain range and the difference between this situation and the situation where it's checked to me, I C-bet and get 3bet by villain, how it changes range.

BB stats are 21/14, 7 aggr over 70 hands, seems solid so far, from what I've seen. For what it means, fold to cbet is 3/3.

UTG+1 stats: 35/5 over 60 hands, CO: 27/0 over 37 hands.

PF 4 BB was kinda low but that's the amount I've been iso-ing him all night with so far. Guess I could have raised it to 5BB or 6BB, considering his stats.

On flop, I was in a kinda weird spot. UTG+1 over bet the pot, and here, I was pretty sure he had nothing, at best something like 55 through 88. But even then, considering how he was playing other hands when he had a draw or a pair, it really looked like A high, or sometype of gutshot or total air. So, I decide to call because I was pretty sure he was weak and would never call a raise, but might bluff the turn anyway, I had seen him fire 3 barrels with air OOP. Considering I have 2 people behind, I'm not sure if I should raise but I figured I'd get most value against the UTG by calling.

BB smallish reraise really annoyed me. 11,65$ in the pot, I got 9$ behind.

Question 1:
Is the range I put him on correct:
A2s , 22 (unlikely but...), 44, pair 88 though JJ (maybe, not sure he 3bets this after a limp, a raise and a call already), some Nut flush draws like AQ-T of heart, A3 or A5 also.

Considering this range, and the size of the pot already, well, it's an easy shove. Is my range ok considering his agg factor, and the action he was facing? Is it weighted a lot more towards monster made hands than draws or middle pairs?

Question 2:
Would it make a difference for his range if it was checked to me, I C-bet the pot and he raised to 6$?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from

CO ($7.52)
Button ($3.25)
SB ($12.34)
BB ($16.21)
UTG ($7.22)
UTG+1 ($16.51)
Hero (MP1) ($11.58)
MP2 ($6.44)
MP3 ($0.72)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, CO calls $0.40, 2 folds, BB calls $0.30, UTG+1 calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.65) 2, 2, 4 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $2, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, BB raises $6, 1 fold, Hero ???
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