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[Nwodwols]

I wish there was more discussion here, discussing hands is cool but it can only take you so far. More theory discussion here are some ideas.

3betting
check raising
Playing the Opponent.
How to identify and lay down and save your stack.


Only so much one can learn from Jonny has A5 bozothe clown reraises on turn what should Jonny do when A T J suited shows etc.....

Need some meat in this forum.

thanks for listening

[Trikkur]

By all means, please start these threads. If you have something you want to talk about, all you need to do is ask

I can also highly recommend these articles as great reads.
http://www.tommyangelo.com/articles.html

That sounds like what you may be looking for

[urbansprawler]

I guess my post was deemed inappropriate

I don't really understand what you are asking; do you want a theory post on 3-betting and/or check/raising?

[podbelski]

BTW I wanted to ask someone to comment on this statement:

Don't you ever squeeze AQ or JJ or TT unless you are going to call a shove/shove
over a 4bet. You are actually throwing money onto an ignited grill if you do this.

This was taken from "Ryan Fee's 6 Max NL Strategy Guide".

[zomfgwtfbbq]

Originally Posted by podbelski

BTW I wanted to ask someone to comment on this statement:

Don't you ever squeeze AQ or JJ or TT unless you are going to call a shove/shove
over a 4bet. You are actually throwing money onto an ignited grill if you do this.

This was taken from "Ryan Fee's 6 Max NL Strategy Guide".

I think what he means is cause your hand has a ton of value, and if you squeeze and fold you just wasted a ton of value with your TT+, especially when people will shove with a lot of hands AK AXs, a lot of pocket paris (some which you might dominate) or might just 4bet trash if they suspect you're squeezing lightly.

[urbansprawler]

Originally Posted by podbelski

BTW I wanted to ask someone to comment on this statement:

Don't you ever squeeze AQ or JJ or TT unless you are going to call a shove/shove
over a 4bet. You are actually throwing money onto an ignited grill if you do this.

This was taken from "Ryan Fee's 6 Max NL Strategy Guide".

I really, really disagree. This statement is made with the assumption that villain will play back often and call rarely, if the reverse is true I see no reason why not to squeeze/fold AQ/JJ/TT.

[chinz]

Originally Posted by podbelski

BTW I wanted to ask someone to comment on this statement:

Don't you ever squeeze AQ or JJ or TT unless you are going to call a shove/shove
over a 4bet. You are actually throwing money onto an ignited grill if you do this.

This was taken from "Ryan Fee's 6 Max NL Strategy Guide".

Fees (oh btw, is Ryan Fee "fees" on 2+2? At least I've always assumed so) is playing mid/highstakes, which are way more aggressive than smallstakes... and I wouldn't even compare them to microstakes.

It might be correct against a few opponents even at smallstakes, but as a generalization it's meant for NL1k and higher.

[Trikkur]

I'm not sure if his explanation is the same as mine, but I'm assuming his thought process goes like this.

TT-JJ/AQ is that 2nd tier of cards that you don't always get it in with, but they have so much value you know you want to play them.

If you decide to squeeze and then fold, you just turned your hand into 27o. I'd much rather make this squeeze with a suited connector and fold to someone shoving than TT-JJ/AQ. If you do decide to squeeze, you need to get it in because of the value your hand holds.

Also, in no way is he saying you must squeeze/call every time. A call preflop can be good instead of squeezing since your hand will hold decent value post-flop.

[podbelski]

Ok nice to hear your opinions.

One more excerpt from Fee's:

Blinds
My raising range here is tigher than most, typically 88+, AJs+, KQs, AK (not even Aqo!). You
just get in a lot of bad spots when donks limp/call and have position when they are just putting
you on ace king. Just check it and take down unraised pots.You hand will constantly make
better pairs and you'll win more than had you raised. Also it makes your life a lot easier
playing less pots OOP.


I'm currently experimenting with this trying to find practical proof for that, actually Chinz asked me in another thread why I just completed KTs from SB, the answer is above.

[urbansprawler]

Originally Posted by Trikkur

I'd much rather make this squeeze with a suited connector

Don't you think 89s or T9s has too much value in a 3-way pot 100bb deep? I think something like 96s or A2s would be a letter. Would you agree?