Login
  • Home
  • Articles
  • Reviews
  • Videos
  • Blogs
  • Forums
  • Tools
  • Bonuses
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2008, 07:04 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 46
Default NL50: herocall?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($83.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, 4
Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1

Flop: ($3) K, 7, 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB calls $1.75

Turn: ($6.50) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($6.50) Q (2 players)
SB bets $4.75, Hero ?

This is the 2nd hand, villain is completely unknown. When do you call his riverbet? I mean the flop is really dry so I think he has Kx here a bunch of the time but what if the board was more drawy or I had a stronger queen? His betsizing also looks a little bluffy to me because there aren't that many queens in my range and he should try to get value, no?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2008, 08:06 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Notts, UK.
Posts: 1,201
Send a message via Skype™ to ThatDeviant
Default

Fold pre. As played I call.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2008, 09:33 PM
Padawan's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 540
Send a message via AIM to Padawan Send a message via Skype™ to Padawan
Default

just cuz your on the button doesnt mean you have to steal
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2008, 09:38 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 622
Send a message via ICQ to R8tme Send a message via Skype™ to R8tme
Default

bad play IMO.
2barrel might help in this situation player dependant though.
have to call river and give up chips for bad play.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2008, 10:20 PM
postoakpoker's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 533
Default

Fwiw, I don't play much HU, so take this with a grain of salt. Many of the best HU players advocate almost never folding the button, so I'm not sure why people are saying fold pre. As played river is pretty much a snapcall from my perspective. If you had fired the turn you'd have a better idea of his range, but there's still plenty of hands in his river betting range that you can beat that he thinks he's valuebetting with...or of course he could be bluffing since you checked behind on the turn.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2008, 10:56 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Notts, UK.
Posts: 1,201
Send a message via Skype™ to ThatDeviant
Default

Actually, almost all of the top players advocate playing a solid 'general' strategy early in a HU match. If the guy starts folding a ton of his blinds to your BTN opens, you can start opening hands like Q4 profitably. As this is early in the match, with no reads and dynamic created, opening here is WAYYYY -EV.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 12-23-2008, 11:01 PM
Padawan's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 540
Send a message via AIM to Padawan Send a message via Skype™ to Padawan
Default

Q4o even heads up I just cant see as being +EV... just fold it out
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 12-24-2008, 07:54 AM
dansiek's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: London
Posts: 1,197
Default

yeah if u know the player folds his BB often then go aheaad and open but not if u dont.
__________________
Until your opponent gives you a reason to stop exploiting him, keep exploiting him.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 12-24-2008, 10:53 AM
loltrickedu's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: omaha, NE
Posts: 636
Default

Q4 HU is a raise everytime OTB fyi,

This is not a hero call

This is a call
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 12-25-2008, 03:02 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 728
Default

q4 beats a ton of hands in HU, i am always raising this. only time im folding this on the button is if villain is overagro. In the beginning of a match you should be raising every button to see how he reacts and see how tight he is. After a couple button raises, we can adjust our opens accordingly.

calling here with 2nd pair is pretty standard in heads up. Villain's range on hands we beat that play this way is > the hands we lose to. And we are getting over 2:1 on our money.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads

Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
4NL: Herocall due? Vantek Micro Stakes 25 02-05-2011 05:09 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45