Login
  • Home
  • Articles
  • Reviews
  • Videos
  • Blogs
  • Forums
  • Tools
  • Bonuses
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2009, 07:36 PM
TheDeKay's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Germany (sometimes China)
Posts: 1,486
Default A somewhat interesting hand

Only read on villain is, that he steals a somewhat wide range).
I'm just trying out diffrent lines atm, so I have no real clue, if plays like this are really +EV ^^

Let's say you've decided to play back on that flop:
Do you think, that a donk-bet here is fine or do you prefer something diffrent?

What's our plan on the turn? What should we do, if he raises?

Could we c/c this river here from time to time (if he bets)? Is it worth fireing a third barrel now?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Hero (SB) ($908.50)
BB ($371.50)
UTG ($233.60)
MP ($406)
CO ($80)
Button ($400)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, J
3 folds, Button bets $12, Hero calls $10, 1 fold

Flop: ($28) 10, 9, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $16, Button calls $16

Turn: ($60) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $40, Button calls $40

River: ($140) A (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks
__________________
It's over now it's unbelievable
I just feel like a diamond on a crown
I'm so happy it's unbelievable
Now - I just feel newborn
-- EMIL BULLS FTW
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2009, 09:30 PM
given1982's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,954
Default

I prefer check/raising on this flop. I think that donk bets are more effective bluffs on coordinated boards. Also, I doubt villain would think you had many 10s in your donking range. Also, your sizing is problematic--I don't think you'd ever do that with a 10, and I think it would get you played back at by thinking players a lot.

I think bet/fold is good on the turn.

I like betting the river ~112. I think his range includes more 44-88, 9x, 78, and JQ than slowplayed 10s or A-high.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-04-2009, 06:37 PM
AdrienD's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Pokerstars
Posts: 253
Send a message via Skype™ to AdrienD
Default

in my experience flop donkbets on paired or dry boards gets floated a ton.

while check/raise doesnt really rep all that much, villain can't really shove cause he would be repping extremely narrow.

and check/raises get floated A LOT less often by ace hi & other air type hands. That said I would probably still barrel the turn and shove this river depending on villain. (to get 44-88, JJ-KK and possibly weak tens to fold)

If he shoves after check/raising however, is it a call ?

his shoving range would look like this normally:

Board: Td 9h Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.468% 56.55% 00.92% 109731 1780.00 { AdAh, AdAs, AhAs, KdKh, KhKs, QdQh, QhQs, 99, AhKh, AsKs, AhTh, AsTs, QJs, T9s, 87s, AdKs, AhKs, AcTh, AcTs, AdTh, AdTs, AhTs, KcTs, KdTs, KhTs, QJo, QhTs, T9o, 87o }
Hand 1: 42.532% 41.61% 00.92% 80749 1780.00 { KJs }

as played though, turn is fine.
barreling the river can get 44-88 to fold for sure if he didnt on the turn, and JJ-KK some of the time.

check/calling river would be horrible cause after he calls the turn he almost always has a made hand except for the rare OESD that he didnt raise on flop or turn.
Yes his betting range would be narrow cause he wont bet JJ-QQ, but he has a ton of Tx hands still in his range and the only bluffs he could have are hands like 44 turned into bluff.

check/raising doesn't look that attractive either cause his river betting range is really strong and unless you expect villain to bet/fold a ten, its not worth it.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads

Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Not really micro but.. an interesting Hellmuth hand Fortify Micro Stakes 1 02-04-2011 11:59 AM
Kind of Interesting Hand Onetwo Micro Stakes 6 03-31-2010 10:03 AM
Interesting 2p2 Hand urbansprawler Small Stakes 5 12-06-2009 05:55 PM
Interesting hand, did I play it right? csfanatikdbz Micro Stakes 7 11-14-2009 08:27 AM
Interesting HU vid oosshhh Heads Up 1 06-22-2008 03:56 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45