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Old 08-24-2008, 08:29 AM
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Default Should I have slowed down here ?

Generally I would proceed more cautiously on this turn but I just don't give shortstacks/halfstacks any credit could be a leak I guess.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($93.85)
Hero (UTG) ($55.05)
MP ($38.05)
Button ($27.50)
SB ($14.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J Q
Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Button calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.50) 4 J 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, Button calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.50) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $6.00, Button raises to $13.25, Hero raises to $42.25, Button calls $10.25 (All-In)

River: ($55.50) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $55.50 | Rake: $2.00

Results in white below:
Button had 9 10 (flush, Queen high)
Hero had J Q (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
Outcome: Button won $53.50
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:36 AM
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This is a tough one, I doubt that I could of gotten away from that. Only thing that I could think of is that you would have to be worried about the flush draw on the flop and bet pot or more to try to get him to fold.

Without knowing how he plays I am not sure even if that would have worked. Then if you shut down when the Qd comes, you know he will bet to represent the flush. Then you are in a tight spot.
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Old 08-24-2008, 12:38 PM
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Yeah, you should. Tough spot though.

Firstly I don't mind the PF raise. I'm a little tighter UTG than this but you're 5 handed so it's fine. His calling range is going to contain a lot of suited connecters here in my experience.

Flop is a standard cbet. He calls.

Turn - why did you reraise shove? You have some good showdown value and If you call his small raise you can get away on the river with your stack intact when a fourth diamond hits and he comes out firing. Way ahead, way behind situation. I think the better play is to bet fold. I don't think he check/raise bluffs you here that often but check/folding is wayyy to passive for my liking. Either play saves you stacking off w/ TP. I think I find a fold on the turn. You don't have any fold equity either - not to mention I don't think he has many weak queens or bad jacks in his UTG calling range, so you're not going to be getting much value from hands you beat.

Obviously this could all change with reads/stats on villian.
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:22 PM
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Well my problem was that I gave him a much wider range than just a flush. Including semi bluffs and what not. And didn't see much point in just flat calling since he was already commited and would have to go with whatever draw he had + didn't want to get bluffed off if that 4th flush card hit on the river. But looking back it was probably just due to the "heat of the moment" because his range should be very polarized towards a flush and I didn't have any solid reads on him. Thanks for the comments.

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