KTs first in flops Flushdraw + gutshot and is donked

[mxrider]

Villain was fairly new to the table and was pretty loose passive overall. Raising the flop is pretty much a no brainer, but what do we do on the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($27.50)
BB ($33.70)
UTG ($9.65)
MP ($89.35)
Hero ($47.55)
Button ($25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, T.
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) Q, 5, A (3 players)
BB bets $1.5, Hero raises to $4.5, Button folds, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($12.10) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ???????

[zayphod]

check behind and take the free card. There is a chance he is also on the heart draw although its more likely he has a K or weak A in his range. His bets look like they are designed to slow you down rather than inflate the pot. On the river I am folding if i don't connect the heart.

[ThatDeviant]

Honestly I fire here.

His donk lead just screams something like 'I have a queen with a heart'. You have the nut straight and nut flush draws as well as the advantage of being the preflop raiser and having position. If he folds thats good - he probably has you beat right now. If he calls you have multiple draws to the nuts and you'll have built a nice pot for the possibility he's drawing to a lower flush. Checking turns your hand face up too - plus if he had anything good he'd likely check to you as you're the PFR.

If the river blanks and he checks again I might consider a third barrell but thats way too situational for me to even think about commenting on. I'm hyper aggresive in these spots usually so that might explain my line.

[no eff eks]

I double barrel here all day. This is normally a pretty bad double barrel card, but you've got lots of equity, and I really do think you can sell this as AK/AQ. He's kind of deep which means he's going to be less inclined to call large bets on the turn/river hoping for a split with Ax. There's also the chance he's got a worse draw than you and if you check you're really screwing yourself.

I don't think you're getting paid off too much if you check behind then hit on the river, so barreling here will probably get you more monies from him if he does stick around.

I would strongly consider firing a 3rd bet on the river if he checks again depending on the card.

[Qgel]

I make a strong bet on the turn as if I'm trying to protect my Ax against a flush draw. If he calls and the river bricks... Against someone with calling station tendencies I check behind. I had some baaad experience with triple barreling against loose passive people . They just don't care that unless I'm bluffing they beat absolutely nothing and still call down with their A2 and scoop the pot from the overaggro fish (me).

[crypto007]

Originally Posted by zayphod

check behind and take the free card. There is a chance he is also on the heart draw although its more likely he has a K or weak A in his range. His bets look like they are designed to slow you down rather than inflate the pot. On the river I am folding if i don't connect the heart.

I would agree, checked behind.

[ThatDeviant]

Not a fan of checking behind at all here.

He's not going to pay you off if a heart hits (unless he has a heart draw himself) as you've turned your hand face up by raising your draw on the flop then checking behind the turn. Betting achieves two things here - getting him to fold the better hand and getting more money into the pot for when you hit one of your likely 12 outs and he decides he's invested too much to fold his weak TP or whatever he has. Checking is way too weak of a play with this hand, especially given your opponent.

[mxrider]

so we have 3 double barrell votes to 2 check-behinds. I have to say that I felt that I played this hand about as horrible as possible overall and why I wanted to post this up. At least there are a couple on my side of checking behind, although I think that is actually wrong after reading others comments. I'll be posting up the turn and river action in a few minutes after I update my PT3......again.....

crap, forgot that I played this hand on my laptop. Gonna have to go on memory.

[mxrider]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($27.50)
BB ($33.70)
UTG ($9.65)
MP ($89.35)
Hero ($47.55)
Button ($25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, T.
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) Q, 5, A (3 players)
BB bets $1.5, Hero raises to $4.5, Button folds, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($12.10) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($12.10) 7h

BB bets $5.50, Hero?

[given1982]

Originally Posted by mxrider

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($27.50)
BB ($33.70)
UTG ($9.65)
MP ($89.35)
Hero ($47.55)
Button ($25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, T.
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) Q, 5, A (3 players)
BB bets $1.5, Hero raises to $4.5, Button folds, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($12.10) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($12.10) 7h

BB bets $5.50, Hero?

All in. He has a boat almost never, and he'll call with lower flushes and might not be able to get away from an A. If he had Ahxh, it's just a cooler imo.