NL50 - top two, turn going out of control.

[aLoner]

Have seen opponent making that bs couple of times, but never came to a showdown.

OnGame Skin, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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BB: $36.27
Hero (SB): $46.29
BTB: $25.84
SB: $83.72

UTG posts $0.25
Pre-Flop: dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $2, BTN folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.25, SB calls $3.25

Turn: ($11) (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8.25, SB raises to $78.47 and is All-In, Hero ???

[zayphod]

is this the same guy from you other post?

[zayphod]

I think its a fold though unless this is how he builds his stack (which you said he had done a couple of time). I guess if you do call you will find out how he is playing these spots.

I am still going $%^& it and folding though.

I hate these spots because you are either way ahead or way behind and for your entire stack I am not so sure its worth being on the wrong side of the flip and you still have more than 1/2 of your stack left. Wiser posters will come to the party I am sure.

[no eff eks]

Seems to me that he waited for a non-diamond turn and then shipped it in. I don't know if I could fold here if I'd seen him pull a similar move a couple other times (with a similar board texture) and he won with no showdown. Usually I think I'd fold, but I think I'd call if I'm getting the right impression about this villain.

[aLoner]

Originally Posted by zayphod

is this the same guy from you other post?

Nope) Not too uncommon thing at Ongame. Probably you'll find such an "artist" at each table you play. Especially towards the night)

[JibNinjas]

Even if you have seen this guy do it before, that does not mean that he is bluffing. There are a lot of people at these stakes that get so scared of getting sucked out on or losing value the just shove. We have 6 outs to beat him if we are behind and getting a bad price on our money.

If you say he has been doing this a lot, you still have to wait till someone calls him down and is forced to show air, but until then because you have never seen what he has been doing this with you have to give him credit. If there was not 3 to a flush out there i would say call, but i think at worst we have to put him on a scared set.

this position does suck, but i cannot see a good reason to call when you are that deap. if he had 50-60bb i would probably call to at least get a read on the guy, but you can find a much better spot to stick in 200bb.

[no eff eks]

Originally Posted by JibNinjas

this position does suck, but i cannot see a good reason to call when you are that deap. if he had 50-60bb i would probably call to at least get a read on the guy, but you can find a much better spot to stick in 200bb.

??? We weren't even 100bb deep to start the hand. At this point we have to call off another 65bb or so.

I just don't believe his line, especially if he's been making this move a lot. That could change based on lots of stuff, but against an aggro player that keeps pushing people off of scary boards I'm going to call this.

[JibNinjas]

sorry, i was thinking about another hand that he posted at a table where he was 200bb. I have been doing that a lot today. I hate not being able to refer to the hand when responding.

I probably would call him here then. We do have outs to improve if we are already beaten, and if this guy has been doing this a lot then i think it would be almost worth it to see how he plays and use that info to get the rest of his stack on later hands