NL50. AK Pre - shove or 4bet?

[aLoner]

OnGame Skin, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $88.83
SB: $89.97
BB: $49.25
UTG: $59.85
Hero (CO): $62.02

Hero posts $0.25
Pre-Flop: dealt to Hero (CO)
SB folds, BB raises to $2, UTG raises to $6.25, Hero raises to $62.02 and is All-In, BTN folds, BB calls $47.25 and is All-In, UTG folds

Flop: ($105.25) (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($105.25) (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($105.25) (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $203.75 Pot ($203.75 Rake)
BB showed
Hero showed

OnGame Skin, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $45.57
Hero (SB): $53.70
BB: $51.67
UTG: $43.50
CO: $111.55

BB posts $0.25
Pre-Flop: dealt to Hero (SB)
CO raises to $2, BTN raises to $7, Hero raises to $53.70 and is All-In, 3 folds, BTN calls $38.57 and is All-In

Flop: ($93.89) (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($93.89) (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($93.89) (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $185.03 Pot ($185.03 Rake)
BTN showed
Hero showed

Now. I don't care that it was the same hand or I wanna moan about bad beat, don't get me wrong. I want to, each and everyone of you, who's at NL50, or (could be good) is higher and was thru that, what you've been doing with AK PRE on NL50. And what success with that you've had. Thank you in advance.

P.S. my first post was about this problem, I eventually got better, but still aren't satisfied. And I know that shoving is super standard for small stakes and aren't really for micros and there was a wise suggestion to play the same way I pay AQ, but damn, any other thoughts?

[JibNinjas]

With AKo i typically shove on a read only basis.

If someone is playing very loose and aggresive then i will typically shove, but i prefer to be suited for that small edge just in case we are dominated against AA or KK

Against a tighter player that is all of the sudden 3betting or 4betting then i prefer to call and evaluate the flop. I rarely fold, but i have come across people that i will fold AK pre because i feel the are 99% of the time showing up with AA or KK.

also you want to be very carefull of people that have very large vpip and low pfr %'s because you want to be inclined to not believe them because they are calling so much but when they play back at you, you have to look at the fack the they may not be nits but they are raise nits and will probably have the goods.

hope this helped

[ThatDeviant]

I flat in both cases for the reason that I hate shoving AK in deep stacked situations when you have a raise and a reraise. At lower stakes you're usually crushed or flipping (unless it's against a known maniac then I like the shove) and there are much better ways to use your edge over these guys.

[given1982]

No one's deep stacked on either of these hands. Unless the villains were very nitty or super loose passive (i.e., they 3bet a narrower range than the one listed below), these hands are fine.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.176% 40.50% 20.68% 174740892 89232168.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 38.824% 18.14% 20.68% 78295380 89232168.00 { AKo }

[ThatDeviant]

Original raiser in Hand 2 is 200+ BB's deep.

Hand 1 is deeper than the max buyin which is what I was referring too.

[Inf1n1tY]

Originally Posted by given1982

No one's deep stacked on either of these hands. Unless the villains were very nitty or super loose passive (i.e., they 3bet a narrower range than the one listed below), these hands are fine.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 61.176% 40.50% 20.68% 174740892 89232168.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 38.824% 18.14% 20.68% 78295380 89232168.00 { AKo }

that.