NL50. Open-ended. Shove?

[aLoner]

OnGame Skin, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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UTG: $13.11
CO: $21.35
BTN: $49.19
SB: $101.17
Hero (BB): $50.75

UTG posts $0.25
Pre-Flop: dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG raises to $1.75, 2 folds, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($5.75) (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.25, UTG raises to $11.36 and is All-In, SB calls $11.36, [color=red]Hero ???

Now of course calling is super standard. But what about shoving here?

*not afraid to look stupid*

[zayphod]

I am not so sure about shoving since it is essentially a dry sidepot at this point and the only thing thats calling are overpairs, sets and 2 pair type hands. As it is you are getting 4.6:1 on the call and it still leaves you with $38 after the call.

thats just me though. With that said if I do the pokerstove thing and allocate the top 10% of hands to the villains (which may be to wide) it gives you almost 50% equity in the pot and the rest split between the villains. If that's true then i guess a shove is not unwarranted, but......if I assign one of the villains a top 5% hand (the all-in guy) then you end up with about 38% equity (same as all in guy) and the SB with about 22%. So in this case isnt it better to keep him in the hand (the SB) rather than pushing him out as a raise may do.

smarter minds will come to the rescue!

[Colossos159]

Just call, you are getting great odds so why screw yourself over with 8 outs.
You really cant count your overcards as outs i guess.

I wouldnt shove here as you are probalby getting a free card on the river. I think the sb will check to you like 90 percent of the time so take the free card. People tend to check alot when someone is already all in. And if you hit I think you can still get most of the money in on the river as the pot will be quite big

[Inf1n1tY]

shoving here is not a good idea. I mean after all you still have only a draw and as it looks like you have no fold equity. plus you can only get more money from the caller. The only option here is to call as you get good odds and shove if you hit c/f if you miss.

[loicve]

I wouldn't shove because SB only calls you with hands against which you only have 8 outs. Then, even if you are able to isolate, your odds against UTG don't improve, it is still 50/50 at best.
So, in my opinion, your hand is too weak to shove it in that spot. With a better draw, shoving would be a good idea, because the turn could blank and then your equity isn't what it was on the flop.