Critique my play, again

[JibNinjas]

i do feel that this is what we should be doing. being that we have a fair amount of outs against just about any hand that he could have with the exception of Q10 in which i would only have 3 to chop. but that is unlikely.

so i want to see what you guys think, and if this is a spewwy play that i should not continue doing.

[ThatDeviant]

This is fine.

[JibNinjas]

that is what i thought, but everytime i have a bad session and i feel like i am getting coolered and cant hit any of my draws i wonder if i am leaking

[no eff eks]

Post flop is fine. I usually fold JTo from the sb though. If anything I'd rather 3bet than call.

[nuvan]

Besides what everyone else said about not callign TJo Preflop, my usual line would be similar but i wouldnt shove 3 bet id 3 bet for more information as its a fairly co-ordinated board and they could easily have you outkicked or 2 paired or even have a made straight, all of which your really drawing to 8 outs. But if they 4 bet shove i would be more inclined to fold.

Just wondering after reading the other responses why shove 3 betting is fine, you may gain some fold equity but it seems a bit iffy at these stakes as people rarely fold after reraising?

[given1982]

Originally Posted by no eff eks

Post flop is fine. I usually fold JTo from the sb though. If anything I'd rather 3bet than call.

This.

[no eff eks]

Originally Posted by nuvan

Just wondering after reading the other responses why shove 3 betting is fine, you may gain some fold equity but it seems a bit iffy at these stakes as people rarely fold after reraising?

Even with 8 outs you're almost never correct to 3-bet fold. In this spot even if we min 3bet I don't think we can fold to a shove since we'd be getting about 2-1 to call all-in (which is more than enough when I doubt we're less that 40% against his range -- too lazy to check though ).

Anyway, a small 3bet is just bad. We still have to get it all in, but we just lost a ton of fold equity. What information would we have gained anyway?

[JibNinjas]

when playing with 5 you guys fold J10 to a CO raise? What if it was suited?
what if it was a button raise? folding J10 to a normal raiser when in the sb seems a bit nitty.

am i really way off in thinking this?

[no eff eks]

JTs I would 3bet usually, sometimes call, sometimes fold (if the raiser is short I'm folding). JTo is really a much worse hand than its suited counterpart. You're really now just looking to make a straight, and it's a hand that's often dominated by a CO opening range -- TT+/AJ/AT/KJ/KT/QJ/QT are all well within their range and all have you in really bad shape.

That's why I'd really rather 3bet (since a lot of those hands fold to a 3bet) or fold with JTo, usually I'm folding since most people at micro stakes aren't stealing all that often.

[Trikkur]

Calling preflop is actually really bad here. I wouldn't even call in position with TJo let a lone OOP. I don't want to be mean, but if you keep doing this you will lose a lot of money. FOLD PREFLOP

On the flop, you don't have a lot of choice. You could call, but it's not like you could fold the turn, so you might as well be the one getting fold equity and shoving.