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Old 09-04-2008, 04:23 PM
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Hi guys. Lately the most annoying players for me were guys who never raise. They play like 50-65% of their hands, call raises most of the time, call cbets 60-80% of the time. Killing your stealing attempts, When you raise in MP or CO call you on the button. And just show up with AA, when you have KK. or AK when you have AQ. Can you give your advice how to play this opponents.
I would say they are ATC3 no pf raise. not talking about donks here.
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Old 09-04-2008, 05:11 PM
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Tighten up and value bet hard when you hit.
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Old 09-04-2008, 05:28 PM
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not talking about donks here.
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Old 09-04-2008, 06:06 PM
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This basically describes 90% of the people I play against HU. The only word that comes to mind for describing these players is "awesome!".... I'll start off the match c-betting a lot, and if they call too often I tighten up my c-bets and stop c-betting with air (unless I have decent equity with a couple backdoor draws + overcards or something like that). These guys never adjust, and they pay off the value bets constantly.

So basically... give them the impression that you'll bluff the flop a lot if you've raised PF (and you should raise PF a lot since implied odds are very high against these players), then completely stop betting your total airballs until they seem to adjust. Rinse/repeat.... profit.

I absolutely love playing against this kind of player. Low variance, high profit, just plain awesome.
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:07 PM
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Quit cbetting so much against them. Value bet them lighter. I know it's easier said than done, but stuff like TP mid/no kicker become hands that you want 2-3 streets of value. Bet your draws on the flop and if they aren't going to bet the turn just get your free card. Make sure when you make a hand you are betting large. stuff like 95-100% pot and overbet rivers if you have to. If the guy is going to call make him call a huge bet and punish him for it.
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:22 PM
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first off, if they are call atc and have those types of stats then are most definately donks.

you will run into a lot of these players, and stay at their table! i have found that the best way to play is to double barrel most of your air and they will fold. if you have a piece of it check the turn and fire the river. they almost never believe that you will check the turn with something then fire the turn. you can get a lot of value from then.

it is very tough though when the run really hot, but just stay at their table.
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