NL30 Standard stack off?

[Acombfosho]

$0.15/$0.3 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG reego ($19.73)
CO AMY__MIA ($64.39)
BTN GangstaP ($26.55)
SB Rikke83 ($54.99)
BB Hero ($39.02)

Pre-flop: ($0.45, 5 players) Hero is BB 4:club: 6:club:
1 fold, AMY__MIA calls $0.30, 1 fold, Rikke83 calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: A:club: Q:club: J:club: ($0.90, 3 players)
Rikke83 checks, Hero bets $0.90, AMY__MIA calls $0.90, Rikke83 folds

Turn: 4:heart: ($2.70, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.70, AMY__MIA calls $2.70

River: 8:spade: ($8.10, 2 players)
Hero bets $11.10, AMY__MIA goes all-in $60.49, Hero goes all-in $24.32

[spoil]Final Pot: $104.01
Hero shows$54.99)[/b]
BB Hero ($39.02)

Pre-flop: ($0.45, 5 players) Hero is BB 4:club: 6:club:
1 fold, AMY__MIA calls $0.30, 1 fold, Rikke83 calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: A:club: Q:club: J:club: ($0.90, 3 players)
Rikke83 checks, Hero bets $0.90, AMY__MIA calls $0.90, Rikke83 folds

Turn: 4:heart: ($2.70, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.70, AMY__MIA calls $2.70

River: 8:spade: ($8.10, 2 players)
Hero bets $11.10, AMY__MIA goes all-in $60.49, Hero goes all-in $24.32

[spoil]Final Pot: $104.01
Hero shows: 4:club: 6:club:
AMY__MIA shows: T:club: K:club:

AMY__MIA wins $76.94 ( won +$12.55 )
Rikke83 lost -$0.30
Hero lost -$39.32[/spoil]

[Acombfosho]

I use weaktight | Hand | 46s - $0.15/$0.3 No Limit Holdem to convert hands. WHich tab is correct to convert them properly on this forum? I figured it would be the same as 2+2 but obviously not...

[mxrider]

Originally Posted by Acombfosho

I use weaktight | Hand | 46s - $0.15/$0.3 No Limit Holdem to convert hands. WHich tab is correct to convert them properly on this forum? I figured it would be the same as 2+2 but obviously not...

This forum isn't set up to recognize the converters yet, but you can use the one located at Poker Hand History HH Converter: Full Tilt Poker,PokerStars,PartyPoker and use the default there. That places an img tag to show the suits of the cards.

[given1982]

The river is spew. I don't like the bet, but calling villain's raise is terrible.

[linqbait]

An adage I'm still trying to learn: don't go broke in an unraised pot. I'm checking a lot here trying to find a way to lay this down and/or keep the pot small. If a fourth club hits, oh well. The river is definitely check/call at best. You're either going to win a small pot or lose a big one. What can you beat: a five high flush? Unless you have some reason to believe this person is a complete maniac, you can't bet/call the river.

I'd expect a crying call if he was as strong as a set. The shove is either maniac or nuts. Either way, you can find a better spot.

[Padawan]

yeah Im check calling all the way down unless there is a huge bet.
If another club does come off Im insta check folding
What do you think he has anyways? Need to put him on some sort of range.
He just let you do all the work for him with your baby flush. He might even try to be tricky when you check the flop and check behind keeping the pot small...

What do you think he is calling a $2.70 bet on the turn with?
2 pair??? on 3 flush board?? I'd slow WAY down after this.
Check river call a bet. unless its some outlandish all in then I just let it go and pick a better spot.

[no eff eks]

Originally Posted by given1982

The river is spew. I don't like the bet, but calling villain's raise is terrible.

WTF, no? The bet size is pretty ridiculous, but stacking off for 130bb with a flopped flush on that board is completely completely completely fine. You're good here the vast majority of the time.

edit... It's like this thread is from backwards land where a flopped flush should be played passively or even folded?! Also, the saying is "don't go broke in an unraised pot with just one pair". It is by far one of the most ridiculous and overused poker cliches, and like most poker cliches it's really just a load of BS.

[given1982]

I didn't like his bet because of the size. Of course you have to bet the river. But after you have overbet, what is villain shoving over the top with that you beat?

[Qgel]

really hate the river overbet but wtf is with all the people saying to bet/fold or check/call the river??? Bet calling all day and night unless I have a superb nit-alert type read on the guy.
Lots of worse hands will call (unless you overbet like OP did). When he raises your overbet it does look very strong but stacking off is very standart in this spot and I would simply consider this a cooler.

It's the same situation as having bottom set when it looks like your opponent has top set. Yet we wouldn't fold that, would we ?.

[no eff eks]

Originally Posted by given1982

But after you have overbet, what is villain shoving over the top with that you beat?

Weird bluffs, broadway/sets/2pr/TPTK that waited to see if a 4th club hit... I'm not thrilled about calling, but we've got the best hand way more often than we're beat so I'm insta-calling.

It's also worth noting that our line looks really weird with the river overbet, so that increases the chances that the guy is making a dumb bluff.