better way to play?

[JibNinjas]

do you think that there is a better way to play this to get more value? i like my flat on the flop because we are not worried about anything on the turn, and a reraise would have looked really strong. on the turn i felt that i should not give him any more chance to draw out, so i bet fairly weak hoping to get a call. i do not see how i could have played differently. villian was 33/23 over about 100 hands.

[megas_xlr]

ok, I can only thing right now about 2 things - checking the turn behind - which is pretty safe I think unless he has 2 spades , and betting a little less - about $4-5 just to annoy him and let him think he can push you off the hand by shoving I prefer the second one and I actually just watched it in a Trikkur's movie, and he said something like "betting so much, that the villian will think he can shove in with enought folq equity" or something Although taking some air time on the turn and then checking behind might cause villian to shove the river, unles he was raising the flop with nothing... I really cant put this guy on a hand... probably 99, 88 or something like that, but I think rasing the flop with this kind of hands will be too advanced for him what do you guys put him on?

edit: after thinking for a while my conclusion is that the guy had air and I think it is still a good play from him to raise your cbet, couse if you are a tight player you will actually make a lot of cbets on that dry flop and in the same time it hits a verry little part of your range..
so you should be more than happy with the results, couse you earned a $5 more and there isnt much to improve on this hand... so it actually is profitable to check behind the turn, but there is no way to know that before the hand is over so you did a great job I still think I would bet less on the turn just to anoy him, like $4-5 , it sounds stupid but I play 20nl now and It actually works pretty fine


P.S. How do you post your hands with this hand replayer... I'm kinda new here...

[nawhead]

I think checking that turn is pretty safe. When he chk-raises that flop and checks the turn, I'm putting him on like a low pair that's trying to get you to fold a whiffed A hi hand (low pp or 78 type hand). He could also have a Kxs, K9-KJ type hand that's unwilling to call a bet on the turn. You pretty much have the nuts and villain seems unsure of his hand, so make him think you got stubborn with something like 88-QQ and make him think he can get value or take it away on the river.

If he is going for the double chk-raise with a flopped set, you're getting his stack on the river anyway with you having position, so get value from weaker by checking behind the turn. No harm in giving him draws to 2 pair, trips or a set himself. And I think he's more likely to bet the turn again if he picked up a draw with him having the betting lead.

He can only call a turn bet with a super combo draw (unless he's a really bad player that likes losing half his stack on just on a 8-9 outer on the turn) or a made hand (which you all beat and can still beat even if he improves). And it's kinda unlikely he made a chk-raise move on the flop with some random broadway hand that's only got some backdoor draws or one overcard to improve. Give him hope and let him hang himself.

[TheDeKay]

A crai on a dry flop with a check on the turn is most of the time a bluff. So what can you do, to make him bluff again? I think, that checking the turn would be the best play here, cause
a) he might have something like 33 and hit his 3 or
b) think, that we are weak and bluff again.

A suckbet on the turn, looks really strong, imo. Cause if we have something like KQ, we will check behind here A LOT.

[nawhead]

A suckbet on the turn, looks really strong, imo. Cause if we have something like KQ, we will check behind here A LOT.

I'd be more inclined to bet the turn again if I had 1 pair because I wouldn't want to let him improve to 2 pair or trips with just 1 pair in my hand. And if he calls another bet or raises me, I can safely shut down. Pot control's already out the window when the pot's already 60bb's (and we're not deep). If you check behind with 1 pair and villain puts out $10-14 on the river thinking he's valuebetting versus weaker, whatcha gonna do? I'd rather bet the $7-8 on the turn and end it there.

I'm just not looking to induce anything more than ABC play from randoms with weak 1 pair hands in a big pot. And I'm also not looking to make a habit of bet-call, check, stackoff and/or fold with TP hands. I'd have to find a very special player to take a line with one pair like this against.