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Old 10-25-2008, 05:42 PM
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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (MP): $25.60 (102.4 bb)
CO: $26.90 (107.6 bb)
BTN: $4.65 (18.6 bb)
SB: $15.10 (60.4 bb)
BB: $19.05 (76.2 bb)
UTG: $9.55 (38.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP with Qd Ad
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 3 folds, BB calls $1, UTG folds

Flop: ($2.85) Qs Jh 9s (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.15, BB raises to $4.75, Hero calls $2.60

Turn: ($12.35) 3d (2 players)
BB bets $6, Hero folds


Looking for feedback on both flop and turn. Villain is passive (35/10/1) but no specific reads
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:37 PM
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Call and reeavaluate on the Turn. Fold to strong bet.
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Old 10-26-2008, 02:07 AM
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I think you played it fine..
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Old 10-26-2008, 03:33 AM
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He called a 3bet cold? I think, I would not Cbet here, cause his whole range crushes us here (exept AK, but that hand just folds... and we have it crushed)
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Old 10-26-2008, 04:06 AM
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Dekay why not C-bet?? if you 3 bet pre your pretty much always c-betting the flop.. unless its really scary.. dont know about calling the min flop raise but I dont think anything wrong with that..

Lots of people limp call hands that are beating us here but the majority of the time I think we take it down with a c-bet... I see lots of people limp call.. with ATC.. and then fold to the flop.. I mean just tonight I iso'd 2 limpers 6x totally missed and took it down with the c-bet on boards scarrier than this. They just call with garbage..
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:17 AM
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Dekay why not C-bet?? if you 3 bet pre your pretty much always c-betting the flop.. unless its really scary.. dont know about calling the min flop raise but I dont think anything wrong with that..

Lots of people limp call hands that are beating us here but the majority of the time I think we take it down with a c-bet... I see lots of people limp call.. with ATC.. and then fold to the flop.. I mean just tonight I iso'd 2 limpers 6x totally missed and took it down with the c-bet on boards scarrier than this. They just call with garbage..
Sry, I misread the HH. Thought that hero 3bet pre and he only made a standart raise. If he 3bet and BB cold calls him he has TT+ or AK most of the time, so a Cbet would not accomplish anything on that board.

About the 'real' HH: ^^
I think, that if we call the flop, we have to call every blank turn without any read, cause if he bluffs /w draws, he will continue on the turn.
We call his crai, so we think /w TPTK: "We can beat a big enough part of his range, to make that profitable" But if we think that on the flop and the turn does not change anything, how can we fold, since he is either bluffing draws (=make flop call profitable) and continue on the turn or he is not semibluffing (=we could fold on the flop).
=> We do not get extra information through his bet on the turn, so if you are not ready to call a turnbet, you can fold the flop.

If you have the read, that he only shoots one barrel or something, than you could call the flop and fold the turn, but without really seeing him crai-shut down I would either call flop, call turn, fold river or just fold flop.
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