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Old 11-10-2008, 03:58 AM
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Default I'm inducing a bluff, no I'm trying to pot control, OMG.

SB has been going crazy for the past hour. He's 50/25/1.75, and not giving anybody much respect. Just saw him call down another guy with bottom pair on a face flop versus 3 streets of betting. Calling raises with a lot of FaceX. Aggressive table talk earlier, but tending to be depressed now as in "Here's the money" and "I'll probably be broke soon." Truthful about his hand. He had a draw in another big pot earlier and said, "Careful, I might hit a 5" and he did have a straight draw and called off all his chips on the turn. Obvious tilt or just drunk.

I'd been playing fit or fold. SB saw me several times before just check down AQ,AJ high when I didn't hit the board. He noticed and commented, "Lot of strategic checking going on on this table." I'd been in a pot recently with him where I check-called against him when he had the best hand on the flop. I outdrew him and won a 100bb pot.

He knows I'm not just playing premiums and I'm willing to gamble it up a little. I've kept raising on the button trying to steal if folded to me and shown down T9 very recently against him. I've done some check-calling and folding also in pots I've raised.

The only hand I've shown in a big pot was a set. But I played it pretty fast.

There's hasn't been any 3betting on this table. I think this is the first time I 3bet.

And I've never seen him bet this aggressively before.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (Button) ($26.50)
SB ($17.20)
BB ($13.85)
UTG ($32.45)
MP ($7.25)
CO ($20.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K
2 folds, CO raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, SB calls $1.15, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.90) 9, 5, 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.90) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $2.90, Hero calls $2.90

River: ($8.70) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $13.10 (All-In), Hero???


Was it right to slowplay? Did I unnecessarily put myself into a very bad spot? How would you play this scenario? I asked him if he had a straight (I dunno why) after hitting my time bank. He didn't reply.

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Raise more preflop, when you have this type of opponent in blinds. Bet the flop, If he calls reevaluate on the turn depending on the flop texture. The card that came is pretty scary in your case.
If he reraises you on the flop, then pretty much fit or fold - both can be correct, just depends how much you want to gamble here. This flop hits his range pretty badly for you
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:29 AM
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If he's aggro, it's an easy call, since your hand is so underrep and he is value betting TT+ here.
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With all of your reads on this player, why would you ever play your hand this slow. Raise more preflop, bet the flop, bet the turn, shove the river. as played 100% not even thinking about folding ever. This is a snap call all day.
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First you give 10 reasons not to slowplay against the SB and what do you do in the hand: you slowplay?
I can never lay down that against the villain you just described: snap call. It even seems like he doesnt have nothing, i wont be surprised if you see AJ here or something.
Believe me , i speak from some bad experience: NEVER slowplay
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Old 11-10-2008, 09:04 AM
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With all of your reads on this player, why would you ever play your hand this slow. Raise more preflop, bet the flop, bet the turn, shove the river. as played 100% not even thinking about folding ever. This is a snap call all day.
100% agree. I'm dumbfounded by the flop check... besides preflop this whole hand is just bazaar.
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:50 AM
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Yes sir, may have some more!

I'm dumbfounded too by how I played this hand. I instantly reverted to a little slowplaying muppet the moment I got into a pot with a big hand against the big fish.

I just flashed a big sign to him saying, "I HAVE AK, I HAVE AK" and committed to it.

Right or not, I reasoned that he was calling people down so light because he thought the tight guys were using face cards as scare cards. No scare cards on the flop, so if I bet 3 streets, he has to recognize I have an overpair. I just didn't think I had the image to get that kind of value from him.

I'm such a donkey...
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:08 PM
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I must be a donkey, so please explain to me why that turn is a BAD card ? IMO it's one of the best cards that could come on the turn once you decided to slowplay. Other than that I agree with comments above.
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Old 11-11-2008, 02:00 AM
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His range was very odd. He never showed down any sort of connected cards, just a lot of J7, Q4, K5 type hands. It's like he wanted to go hi and lo to even out his odds of hitting both ends of the deck. Very wierd.

I didn't think the board was bad for me on the turn, but the river was very scary.

I can't make this type of laydown right now. But I played it so cagey the huge river overbet just didn't make any sense in the end.

It felt like a crying call though, mostly because I absolutely butchered the hand and made it so much more complicated than it needed be.

Results in white below:
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
SB had K, 5 (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Hero won $32.90
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:39 AM
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The fact that you have observed him calling down 3 streets with bottom pair and giving no one any respect means that the only thing on your mind is should be finding the most direct route to ValueTown. Bet Bet Bet this hand and dont stop.
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