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Old 11-10-2008, 09:46 PM
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Default General question re: TPTK vs half stack

So I found myself in this situation twice today at Cake $20 6 max.

I raised pf (once with AK, once with AQ). Ended up heads up vs a player with about $10. Both hands I hit TPTK. On one, he donked OOP and I put him all in. On the other, he checked, I cbet, he craised all in and I called.

With full effective stacks, I play one pr more carefully, but I've been playing for "stacks" (really 1/2 stacks) against shortstacks.

Is this standard or spew?

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Old 11-10-2008, 09:47 PM
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50BB deep in a raised pot w/TPTK is a super standard stack off unless the guy is a meganit and only raises with the nuts.
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:03 PM
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I'd go broke wiht 100bbs here
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:16 PM
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I'd go broke wiht 100bbs here
Fair enough. But the little voice in my head was going "...don't go broke with 1 pr, don't go broke with 1 pr..."

When does that adage actually apply?
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:19 PM
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Scary boards, loose-passives players showing agression, nits betting and general turn agression are all times when I start to slowdown and look for showdown with one pair. Be interesting to hear Trikkur's response.
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:39 PM
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Making blanking statements like don't go broke with 1 pair is just dumb. I've gone broke with king high before. You need to focus on your opponent's line and how your hand range interacts with his hand range.

It's not something I can sit down and teach that easily, you have to pay attention yourself and figure out what hands make sense and if you can beat them. ThatDeviant gave a pretty good rundown of some situations that normally represent stronger hand ranges than TPTK though and that's what I'm talking about.

Let's say your raise UTG+1 with AQo and a loose fishy station calls on the button. Flop is Qs7s8x, you bet and get called. Turn is a Js and you bet and he shoves. This is a spot where you probably aren't good anymore. His preflop call could be a few different PPs, or SCs. When he calls the flop it's likely he has a piece of it or a draw. The turn raise by him though is very indicitave of a hand that just caught. Be it QJ, 9T, XXs, etc.
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