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Old 11-10-2008, 11:14 PM
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Default [50NL 6max] AQ on wet board, river value?

Villain is 51/30/1
Should I value bet this turn and....
On the river is this a spot where I should be reraising, and folding to a shove or re-re-raise

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Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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SB: $27.50 (55 bb)
BB: $47.30 (94.6 bb)
Hero (MP): $50.45 (100.9 bb)
CO: $10 (20 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP with Q A
Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) Q K J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($9.25) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($9.25) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero ???
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:47 PM
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just call
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Old 11-11-2008, 12:17 AM
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Bet the turn.
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i would bet the turn too.
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Old 11-11-2008, 03:19 PM
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I see no reason not to raise the river. This is a straight almost never, AK is very unlikely, and sets are very unlikely.... this looks like KQ/KJ, and I think we're giving up too much value to just call this tiny bet. I'd raise it to $12 and fold if he 3bets.

I agree that we should bet the turn when checked to.
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:12 PM
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raising is bad because we will just get shoved over by a straight, and weaker hands will or at least should fold out. Raising lets them play perfect.
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:02 PM
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Isn't it good to check on the turn here?
If you bet the turn and he has a straight he is calling. If not, he is folding. Then on the river you can either fold or just check behind. He gets 1 bet out of you.

If you check the turn hes probably going to bet the river no matter what he has. So either way he only gets 1 bet out of you but this way we can at least catch him bluffing sometimes.
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Old 11-11-2008, 05:18 PM
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Isn't it good to check on the turn here?
If you bet the turn and he has a straight he is calling. If not, he is folding. Then on the river you can either fold or just check behind. He gets 1 bet out of you.

If you check the turn hes probably going to bet the river no matter what he has. So either way he only gets 1 bet out of you but this way we can at least catch him bluffing sometimes.
A station is not folding KQ or KJ on the turn.
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Old 11-11-2008, 06:09 PM
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I would just call the river, not point in raising. If you raise and he shoves you have to fold, even if he does this with two pair. So i would just call.
I wouldn't bet the turn, cause then the pot will be 2 large for the 2 pair you got.
Just my opinion.
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Old 11-12-2008, 02:46 AM
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Yeah I do agree with the people saying bet the turn. What I'm wondering is, what's our line here if villain check raises the turn as well? Call and re-evaluate river?
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