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Old 12-22-2008, 09:03 PM
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Default Over pair on the turn 3 way (deepish)

Tried using hand replayer but didnt know how

What to do here? Im lost.. Check fold?

Seat 1: xara*** (17,43 in chips)
Seat 7: Nine*** (11,10 in chips)
Seat 8: bern*** (6,97 in chips)
Seat 9: smif*** (10,00 in chips)
Seat 10: HERO (20,30 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $0,05
xara***: posts big blind $0,10
Dealt to HERO [ Js Jc ]

Nine***: raises to $0,35
bern***: folds
HERO: raises to $1,25
xara***: calls
Nine***: calls

@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ 6d 3s 4s ]
HERO: bets $3
xara***: calls
Nine***: calls

# # # TURN # # # [ 6h ]

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Old 12-22-2008, 09:34 PM
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first watch the vid on how to put HH in replayer.
Second, you really think someone has 6 here?

More likely overpair like TT and AKs.
Depending on their action you can mak your decision, against Nine I would all in, against Xara it depends, but any reads or notes on villains are preffered when discussed
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:35 PM
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BB cold called a 3bet? Any stats?
1/2p Cbet is enough here. I just might make 2 block bets on turn and river or just c/f. Really avoid to play a huge pot here
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:12 PM
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Pretty much no reads and no stats since I play on cake. Mostly afraid of KK/AA here. Or a set miner with reads from the deck
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Old 12-23-2008, 07:44 AM
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Pretty much no reads and no stats since I play on cake. Mostly afraid of KK/AA here. Or a set miner with reads from the deck

I see KK/AA four betting 100% of the time. QQ is more dangerous, but unlikely as at the limits people shove PF.

Nine is defending a hand that has lost IMO, but the other caller, is probably drawing a flush. I would c bet, then c/fold or bet the river depending if a spade hits or not (or an over card)

The drawer could be on AQs AKs AJs QKs, so it would be hard to fold her/him.

thats all IMO, which is probably wrong, just my take on it.

How did it end up?
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:54 AM
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I bet about 1/2 pot for value on the turn, very diffiult to put a 6 in either players range so unless someone slowplayed a bigger pp than JJ here (which I assume an unknown wouldn't) I would expect to be good here a lot of the time...... if you run into a set then it's a cooler.
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:29 AM
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Seat 1: xara*** (17,43 in chips)
Seat 7: Nine*** (11,10 in chips)
Seat 8: bern*** (6,97 in chips)
Seat 9: smif*** (10,00 in chips)
Seat 10: HERO (20,30 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $0,05
xara***: posts big blind $0,10

Dealt to HERO [ Js Jc ]
Nine***: raises to $0,35
bern***: folds
HERO: raises to $1,25
xara***: calls
Nine***: calls

@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ 6d 3s 4s ]
HERO: bets $3
xara***: calls
Nine***: calls

# # # TURN # # # [ 6h ]
HERO: bets $7
xara***: is all in 13.1800
Nine***: is all in 6.8500
HERO: calls
HERO: shows Js Jc
xara***: shows Ad As
Nine***: shows 9s Ts

&&& RIVER &&& [ 2c ]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xara*** wins $12,11 with Two Pairs, Aces and Sixes
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xara*** wins $31,85 with Two Pairs, Aces and Sixes
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:04 AM
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I just shove the turn. This is a cooler.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:15 AM
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That was a weird line for AA, cooler. She/He actually flats PF/flop and waits for the only 'dangerous' card, and all ins... I don't suspect that that is a good way to play AA in the long run, but w.e.

Actually you see this a lot at lower limits, people who hold good cards, slow play them (because they probably read or watched something about slowplaying somewhere and overuse it now too much.) and as soon as they think they might not be ahead they just stick it all in, ALOT. They play their strong hands crappy, and their weak hands strong, so they are always -EV, because eventually, they are called.

-- PS. and there's nine with his totally overplayed 9-10, which should have folded PF.

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Old 12-23-2008, 01:29 PM
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@ all the guys who get it in here:
We are... 200BB deep, xara*** COLD CALLED *alarm clock* a 3bet... so if he is not a donk he will have a premium hand here sooooo often. If you have bad stats on him, ok, get it in but readless I really avoid to play a huge pot here. I hate losing 200BB /w one pair and I do not see any hands, that call us down here, if xara*** is somewhat good.
So imo this is not a cooler... we just value towned ourself ^^
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