Do I lack confidence with JJ? [bad laydown inside]

[mahhddgtp]

Pretty sure I made a stupid laydown pre-flop... Either that, or it was semi-genius... Historically I have a good idea if people are holding a strong(er) pair pre-flop in 3bet situations, where I find out by watching other people get owned... Here we go...

Enemy is 9/7 over 81 hands... I previously noticed 2 hands ago he raised 97s in a full-ring game from UTG+2 (and ended up getting a straight)

Nothing major, isn't even long enough to use the hand replayer, but I figured I would put it to good use since Trikkur hooked us up and had it coded.

[Aji89]

This isn't bad at all. Doing anything other than folding here is bad imo.

[mahhddgtp]

Yeah, it's just like... 35% of the time a K, Q, or A comes in the flop... JJ is just so easily dominated to me now.

[ThatDeviant]

An UTG nit 4bet you, easy fold.

The real question is why you 3bet the said UTG nit.

[mahhddgtp]

Originally Posted by ThatDeviant

An UTG nit 4bet you, easy fold.

The real question is why you 3bet the said UTG nit.

I try to push until I get pushed back... JJ is 3bet worthy IMO... I may just switch over to calling a raise and seeing a flop. None of you guys 3bet JJ?

Part of the reason for this thread BTW is because I think JJ and 22 are the only two pocket pairs I haven't made a profit on since I've started tracking my hands. Didn't know if I needed to trust them more or treat them like they're weak.

[ThatDeviant]

Originally Posted by mahhddgtp

I try to push until I get pushed back... JJ is 3bet worthy IMO... I may just switch over to calling a raise and seeing a flop. None of you guys 3bet JJ?

Oh, I 3bet JJ most of the time in a 6max game against most opponents in most positions.

My point was that in this situation there are a few differences;

~ It's full ring.
~ The raiser is 9/7.
~ He's UTG.
~ You're on the BTN.

You're already likely crushed or flipping with his range based off stats, so I just flat and play a modest pot in position against him and see what develops.

[mahhddgtp]

Originally Posted by ThatDeviant

Oh, I 3bet JJ most of the time in a 6max game against most opponents in most positions.

My point was that in this situation there are a few differences;

~ It's full ring.
~ The raiser is 9/7.
~ He's UTG.
~ You're on the BTN.

You're already likely crushed or flipping with his range based off stats, so I just flat and play a modest pot in position against him and see what develops.

Sounds fair... Thanks

[ThatDeviant]

Also, the fact you saw him raise somewhat light (for his style) a few hands ago makes it less likely he's doing it again so soon, as even though it's a small limit, he's probably aware that people noticed.

[dansiek]

I dont hate the 3-bet at all.
I love the fold though.

[Richy47]

Originally Posted by ThatDeviant

Oh, I 3bet JJ most of the time in a 6max game against most opponents in most positions.

My point was that in this situation there are a few differences;

~ It's full ring.
~ The raiser is 9/7.
~ He's UTG.
~ You're on the BTN.

You're already likely crushed or flipping with his range based off stats, so I just flat and play a modest pot in position against him and see what develops.

this........ although I never play full ring so I'm not sure how bad 3betting JJ is here, I'm pretty sure it's not great in this situation though.