25nl AP, hows my line?

[bust_it_out]

Stage #1191740511: Holdem No Limit $0.25 - 2009-01-07 06:40:54 (ET)
Table: FLAMINGO DR (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 2 - BUST_IT_OUT ($40.34 in chips)
Seat 3 - LEKKERKIP ($50.33 in chips)
Seat 5 - DONKSTOMPER ($78.43 in chips)
Seat 1 - ADITHEACE111 ($21.19 in chips)
LEKKERKIP - Posts small blind $0.10
DONKSTOMPER - Posts big blind $0.25
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to BUST_IT_OUT [Qd Ad]
ADITHEACE111 - Folds
BUST_IT_OUT - Raises $1 to $1
LEKKERKIP - Raises $3.40 to $3.50
DONKSTOMPER - Folds
BUST_IT_OUT - Calls $2.50
*** FLOP *** [8h Ac 7c]
LEKKERKIP - Bets $6
BUST_IT_OUT - Raises $18 to $18
LEKKERKIP - Folds
BUST_IT_OUT - returned ($12) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BUST_IT_OUT - Does not show
BUST_IT_OUT Collects $18.29 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($19.25) | Rake ($0.96)
Board [8h Ac 7c]
Seat 1: ADITHEACE111 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: BUST_IT_OUT (dealer) collected Total ($18.29) HI$18.29) [Does not show]
Seat 3: LEKKERKIP (small blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 5: DONKSTOMPER (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS

He was 28/20/17 over ~100 hands
I was playing fairly loose and stole his blinds a few times...
Thanks

[Colossos159]

Seems pretty standard though I might take another line:

Your raise is only getting called/raised by better because his 3bet preflop OOP suggests a JJ, QQ, KK, AA, AK, AQ hand and i think you might get more value on later streets by just calling and let him fire multiple barrels with fe JJ especially because you have position. By raising him here you're pretty much telling you have AK, AQ here as worst possible hands.

[given1982]

I think this is good. Flatting the flop also has its merits. But by raising, a TAG villain might stack off with a draw here.

[Richy47]

I like, I think raising and flatting the flop are fairly close in EV on this board. If it was a rainbow board I definitely prefer a call though.

[Richy47]

oooops wrong thread

[Total Sweetheart]

I can see the merit in flat calling, but at $25NL, especially against a looser player, I would always raise here, and I'm always calling a shove unless we're really deep.

I see people stack off with so many random hands at $25NL and I think the risk you take of getting called by a set or AK is definitely outweighed by the possibility that you will get called by a weaker ace, a flush draw, or even a weaker pair like KK or QQ that just can't say goodnite.

[dansiek]

standard line wp.

[no eff eks]

Originally Posted by given1982

I think this is good. Flatting the flop also has its merits. But by raising, a TAG villain might stack off with a draw here.

Nearly 200bb deep we really don't want to be 3bet by a draw. I don't like getting it in even on this board with TPGK, so I'd rather just call his flop bet.

His 3bet range isn't really going to have a draw on this board all that often (maybe JT or a flush draw, but otherwise nada). There's really no danger in giving him a look at the turn, and he sounds aggro enough that he might barrel off again giving you two streets of value instead of one.

I don't see very many worse hands calling the flop raise either unless he's really spewy.

[given1982]

Originally Posted by no eff eks

Nearly 200bb deep we really don't want to be 3bet by a draw. I don't like getting it in even on this board with TPGK, so I'd rather just call his flop bet.

His 3bet range isn't really going to have a draw on this board all that often (maybe JT or a flush draw, but otherwise nada). There's really no danger in giving him a look at the turn, and he sounds aggro enough that he might barrel off again giving you two streets of value instead of one.

I don't see very many worse hands calling the flop raise either unless he's really spewy.

So you think OP should fold to the 3bet preflop, right?

[no eff eks]

I highly doubt he should be folding to a 3bet from a 25/20, but it's possible... Mostly I just don't like the flop raise because I don't see any value in it and I expect him to fire a second barrel with worse quite often.