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Old 01-07-2009, 10:55 PM
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Default 10NL Absolute- 99 in 3 bet pot

Villain is 71/21/1.8 over only 14 hands. Anyone think he check calls 2 streets to turn his hand into a bluff on any river scare card or is this donk shove for value most of the time? In hindsight my turn bet size really should've been bigger I guess.


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Button ($18.58)
SB ($15.74)
Hero (BB) ($11)
UTG ($7.09)
MP ($3.53)
CO ($10.59)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 9
4 folds, SB raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.70, SB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.40) 8, 4, 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls $1

Turn: ($3.40) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.60, SB calls $2.60

River: ($8.60) K (2 players)
SB bets $8.60

Total pot: $8.60
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Old 01-08-2009, 04:13 AM
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Any other reads on this player? I guess it's kind of player dependant, but I know some players like this will peel 2 streets with overcards like Ak, KQ. Generally I would fold in this spot unless you think this player is bluffy.
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Easy fold, you have a bluff catcher and that is it and I don't see a call being correct enough times for it to be profitable.

BTW I think your bet sizing was fine, maybe bet a little more on the turn but I certainly don't hate it.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:52 AM
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fine line imo, people do this all the time with KQ AK.
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:36 AM
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I probably check back the turn. The only flop draw completed. What are you going to get value from? A8, 55, 66?
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:54 AM
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I dont think hes looking for value but more to stop villain chasing his draws.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:02 AM
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I probably check back the turn. The only flop draw completed. What are you going to get value from? A8, 55, 66?
I agree that a check behind woulda been much better followed by calling almost all river bets. But I will add, this player was a pretty big fish and isn't folding A8, 55 or 66 on the turn.
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I think checking the turn with the intention of calling all river bets is pretty bad. Bet the turn to get value from his marginal hands since the river is generally gonna be pretty ugly, and by keeping the initiative on the turn makes it more likely villain will check the river unimproved.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:47 AM
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I think checking the turn with the intention of calling all river bets is pretty bad. Bet the turn to get value from his marginal hands
And you know that he calls 3bets OOP with hands even more marginal than ours and that he calls the turn with them from 14 hands worth of stats?
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:53 AM
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I am basing this on the information given by the only player there at the table

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But I will add, this player was a pretty big fish
I just don't see how you get more value from worse hands on a drawy board by checking the turn and calling any river bet when there are a lot of scare cards both for you and for your opponent.
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