AJ vs ..

[ShadesAA]

First hand , players seems decent , could i of layed this down ?
Second , villian is unknown , im sure i could of played this better tho ..

[Richy47]

Hand 1: As played I think I fold the river (although I'm assuming you only have tpgk since I can only see the Ad and 5c on the flop), as I don't think villain will be value betting worse here. Any stats on villain?? Depending on how aggressive he has been I might 3bet this preflop.

Hand 2: Against an aggressive late position opener with a high steal % I 3bet this preflop. Against an unknown I don't mind flatting so much, and post-flop I think your line was fine. Again, if villain is barrelling the river then I'm probably letting it go against an unknown.

[given1982]

I 3bet both of these preflop. The 2nd hand is a good illustration of why it's so bad to be OOP and without the initiative.

[mxrider]

Originally Posted by given1982

I 3bet both of these preflop. The 2nd hand is a good illustration of why it's so bad to be OOP and without the initiative.

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[dansiek]

Yeah u r too passive, be the aggressor and these situations will be much clearer.

[ShadesAA]

Originally Posted by mxrider

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Hmm very interesting , damn that was a little kick up the ass , ty guys , it just seems spewy to me to 3bet AJ , buildin a pot without a premium hand, glad i posted them hands .. i would only ever 3bet AK , 10+ and AQ, AJ if im in the blinds ..

so no matter what position i should always 3bet these , unless perhaps the raiser is a good player and utg ?

but is it not better to flat AJo if i have position , lets say he raises UTG +1 and im on the button? i spose by 3 betting these im bringin 4 bet dynamics into my game which is something i should do now that i hope to move to 100nl soon , but 3 bettin AJo would mean id have to start callin 3bets lighter

just checked my stats .. 6k hands ive only ever 3bet AQ, AJ from the blinds !! yicks ! huge leak found

[ShadesAA]

Its hands like this that has me scared to 3bet AJ

[Total Sweetheart]

To Given and MXRider, would you 3 bet because you are OOP? Or would you 3 bet in position as well?

Against an unknown OOP are you always playing AJ in the blinds to a raise or is not playing it really bad?

I'm trying to move up to $50NL and a lot of times with hands like AJ oop I feel like I don't know what to do.

[Richy47]

Just because a play doesn't work out once doesn't mean it is a bad or incorrect play. I like your play in the above hand, you were just unlucky to have run into a hand this time.

However it isn't always a good idea to 3bet with these hands regardless, since it is often villain/position dependant.

[given1982]

Originally Posted by ShadesAA

so no matter what position i should always 3bet these , unless perhaps the raiser is a good player and utg ?

No. You definitely should not 3bet AJo no matter what. I didn't say anything close to that.

Originally Posted by ShadesAA

but is it not better to flat AJo if i have position , lets say he raises UTG +1 and im on the button? i spose by 3 betting these im bringin 4 bet dynamics into my game which is something i should do now that i hope to move to 100nl soon , but 3 bettin AJo would mean id have to start callin 3bets lighter

I'd just fold AJo in your hypothetical.

Originally Posted by Total Sweetheart

To Given and MXRider, would you 3 bet because you are OOP? Or would you 3 bet in position as well?

In the first posted hand, OP is in position.

Originally Posted by Total Sweetheart

Against an unknown OOP are you always playing AJ in the blinds to a raise or is not playing it really bad?

I'm definitely not always playing AJ in the blinds to a raise.