Sustainable BB/100 Goal

[mojo6911]

What is a realistic goal at the micro stakes? I am thinking 10 or so.

800 hands in and I am at 67/100, but have been running extremely lucky. When I have been sucked out on, luckily they have had a smaller stack.



Also, does the winnings line above the EV line show that I have been lucky on all in hands?

[given1982]

10 would be excellent, and yes, you ran well over that sample.

[dansiek]

it doesnt mean u have been getting extremely lucky, but more like ur QQ has beaten AK all in preflop.

[mojo6911]

Originally Posted by dansiek

it doesnt mean u have been getting extremely lucky, but more like ur QQ has beaten AK all in preflop.

Isn't that still +EV? A pair is the better side of a coin flip than AK, since AK still needs to improve. I don't have poker stove here at work, but I think its like 55% in favor of the QQ.

[postoakpoker]

depends on the suits, but yeah, it's a small favorite regardless

[no eff eks]

5ptbb/100 is what people should shoot for. Anything above that is really really good.

It's going to be very difficult to have a longterm winrate above 10ptbb at any level if you're not playing HU.

[nawhead]

Yeah, 10 ptbb is the magic number.

Currently playing 25NL, and in the last 5k hands, I'm winning at that 10 ptbb, which is really cool. Very small sample, but I feel it's sustainable. Even though my overall at 25NL is a shameful 1.25 ptbb over 25K hands, it was only because I went through a bad LAG period for a while, just trying out different things, seeing if 25NL was all that different from 10NL (it isn't).

But I've seen a steady progression in my game over about 60K hands. I was a 2.5 ptbb winner at 10NL over 37k hands. 4 ptbb winner over 25k hands at 10NL (latest hands as I got better). 6 ptbb winner over 15k hands. 8 ptbb winner over 5k hands. But that's with FTP's 10% rake at 10NL.

So I assume I maximized my winrate to that magic 10 ptbb before moving up. And I'm seeing the same type of results as I play on my A game at 25NL now.

So from breakeven/losing player (with 2 years experience donking around) to 10 ptbb winner at microstakes took me about 6 months of learning/sharing/soul searching at PokerTrikz.

There's other members around here who made far faster progress than me though. I don't play all that much.

[no eff eks]

Variance is bigger than you'd think when it comes to winrates... I beat $50nl for more than 10ptbb for nearly 100k hands, then hit a massive downswing that bought my total winrate down to just 6ptbb in only 30k hands or so. Poker is a pretty sick game imo.

Like I said, anything above 5ptbb is very good -- 10ptbb is about as high as you can really hope for if you play 6max.

[dansiek]

im running 40/100, sustainable much?

[mojo6911]

I am now up to 2200 hands and am around 50 or so.