How do you play a double gutter?

[mojo6911]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($5.05)
UTG ($2)
MP ($3.51)
CO ($5.23)
Button ($5.26)
SB ($16.04)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 3
2 folds, CO calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.12) A, 4, 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, CO raises to $5.18 (All-In), Hero calls $4.75 (All-In)

Turn: ($10.12) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($10.12) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $10.12 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
Hero had 5, 3 (two pair, fours and threes).
CO had A, 10 (two pair, Aces and fours).
Outcome: CO won $9.62


I put him on AJ, so I knew I was behind. I guess I should have checked behind to take the free card. (.05 bet) lol

[R8tme]

if you put him on A then it was one dumb move to reraise and call a shove. get the free card, and when your double gutter hits then shove or 3bet.

[ShoveOrFold]

Can you include reads on villain? Its so hard to give advice when it comes to unknowns.

I think its a fold as played however. He 3bet overshoves 5 into like .42. Honestly, don't know what you were expecting. You are behind his entire range. At the moment you have a 5 high... If you think hes a donk, just wait till you hit your draw, and then stack him. Hes going to play bad either way.

You have 8 live outs, which means you have roughly 32% equity. However with his range, he could have a set a lot, so your true equity against his range is actually lower. If I'm doing my math right, you are going to need like a 3:1 odds in order to call. And even then, with a draw you are going to want to be the raiser in order to get fold equity.


lol at villain overshoving that flop with top pair ten kicker.

[TheDeKay]

The call is soooo -EV... even if he bluff shoved you are behind and you do not get the right odds.

If villain is such a donkey, that he goes broke /w AT here... just call on the flop. You'll get his money, if you hit anyways. No need to play the draw aggro here.

[mojo6911]

Originally Posted by ShoveOrFold

Can you include reads on villain? Its so hard to give advice when it comes to unknowns.

I think its a fold as played however. He 3bet overshoves 5 into like .42. Honestly, don't know what you were expecting. You are behind his entire range. At the moment you have a 5 high... If you think hes a donk, just wait till you hit your draw, and then stack him. Hes going to play bad either way.

You have 8 live outs, which means you have roughly 32% equity. However with his range, he could have a set a lot, so your true equity against his range is actually lower. If I'm doing my math right, you are going to need like a 3:1 odds in order to call. And even then, with a draw you are going to want to be the raiser in order to get fold equity.


lol at villain overshoving that flop with top pair ten kicker.

Yeah, you are right. I really don't know what I was thinking, LOL. I saw the double gutter and got a hard on. He was running about 72 VPIP and showed some pretty donky moves. I should have taken the cheap turn and waited for the draw to come in.

[Richy47]

In a HU limped pot I just lead out for pot on the flop...... as played the call is awful for the reasons already mentioned

[ShoveOrFold]

As played this, is HOW NOT to play a double gutter ^^.

The funny thing here is, He has the 3nd worst hand possible. He only beats 23 and 25. lol,

And he is giving away all his implied odds by getting it allin on the flop.

[richyl]

sorry i could not help myself

[dansiek]

i call the 5cent bet and take the basically free turn cards all day long.

[Qgel]

I bet out all day long. Seriously, what's with the checkraise? It's like you thought you had nothing at first so you checked but then you noticed a double gutter and was like "omg I have to do something" and raised.

Play double gutters same as your open enders, there is little difference between the too. It's just harder to put someone on a double gutter but it's not like an opponent with 72 VPIP cares what you have at all.