some 25NL hands

[davo_daman]

Looking back, this is just a really bad shove, my 9 high flush draw isn't worth much, should I have pitched it on the flop? villain is 17/14.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($25)
SB ($25.25)
BB ($17.50)
UTG ($25)
MP ($9.40)
Hero (CO) ($42.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, A
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, Button calls $0.85, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.05) 10, A, Q (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, Button raises to $6, Hero raises to $41.60 (All-In), Button calls $18.15 (All-In)

Turn: ($50.35) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($50.35) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $50.35 | Rake: $2.50

Bad shove? villain is 51/14 over 86.

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MP ($23.60)
Hero (CO) ($25)
Button ($29.60)
SB ($22.35)
BB ($22.80)
UTG ($15.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, 10
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.10, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.55) 5, Q, 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $2.55, Hero calls $2.55

Turn: ($7.65) J (2 players)
UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $21.35 (All-In), UTG calls $7.70 (All-In)

River: ($31.05) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $31.05 | Rake: $1.55


Could I have folded this? villain is 30/20 over 30.

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Hero (UTG) ($27.35)
CO ($24.10)
Button ($41.55)
SB ($29.50)
BB ($9)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
Hero raises to $0.85, CO raises to $2.90, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.05

Flop: ($6.15) 2, 5, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, CO raises to $21.20 (All-In), Hero calls $17.20

Turn: ($48.55) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($48.55) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $48.55 | Rake: $2.40

Can you find a fold on the turn, is he doing this with A8 or a set? villain is 17/12

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($29.25)
MP ($32)
CO ($44)
Button ($24.55)
SB ($23.75)
Hero (BB) ($29.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A
2 folds, CO raises to $0.85, Button calls $0.85, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $2.15, 1 fold

Flop: ($6.95) 9, 8, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.80, CO calls $4.80

Turn: ($16.55) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, CO raises to $36.20 (All-In), Hero calls $11.70 (All-In)

River: ($59.95) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $59.95 | Rake: $2.95

This smells like KK or AA but can I fold to a min check raise on that flop? villain is 17/9

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MP ($25)
Hero (CO) ($49.60)
Button ($48.80)
SB ($51.15)
BB ($29.65)
UTG ($27.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, SB raises to $2.95, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.10

Flop: ($6.15) J, Q, 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB raises to $8, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($22.15) J (2 players)
SB bets $12, Hero folds

Total pot: $22.15 | Rake: $1.10

Probably should have checked behind on the river, looking back, I'm probably only getting called by something that beats me? What do you put him on? villain is 16/12

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($31.10)
BB ($10.15)
UTG ($49.05)
MP ($24.90)
Hero (CO) ($32.75)
Button ($16.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, Q
UTG raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50


Flop: ($3) 3, Q, 5 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

Turn: ($6) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4, UTG calls $4

River: ($14) 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $11, UTG calls $11

Total pot: $36 | Rake: $1.80

[wiltronic]

hand1: don't like this too much. When you are raised on this flop I think fold is best. You just aren't beating anything really. If he had a flush draw it's likely better than your 9. He could also already have a flush. If it's an Ax, it's likely a better kicker than your 9. Fold seems best here.


hand2: seems okay. You are getting correct odds (if I am doing the math right) on the turn to call his bet and he is so short putting him all in is about the same I think. Not a great spot but not horrible either.


hand3: I guess this could be AA or KK but I don't think I could fold with a big overpair on this flop. What are you hoping for? Only better flop would be Qxx I think. I guess if you are going to get it in on an undercard flop you might as well 4bet/get it in preflop.


hand4: I think I call here. You are beating everything except 99 and 44. I don't see a tight opponent doing this with A8. Lots of overpairs that you beat would do this I think, KK QQ, JJ......


hand5: seems fine I guess, after the check raise flop and then lead outs, seems like your one pair hand is not so good.


hand6: strange hand. don't know, maybe a slowplayed AQ? check call, check call, hard to say. I think I would play this the same.


I play 10nl so I could be wrong on all of these, take it for what's it worth. good luck...

[TheDeKay]

Hand 1: Easy fold on the flop
Hand 2: Since villain seems so loose, we get his money, if we hit and we won't have much fold equity on the turn, so I prefer to call and shove, if we hit.
Hand 3: It's hard to fold QQ in a 5handed game, against aggro players. But if you want to fold QQ, you should do it pre... There is no sense in calling /w QQ and folding it on that kind of flop.
Hand 4: Since there is TT+ in his range, I could never fold here, after betting so much on the turn. If you do think, that he is not calling 3barrels /w TT+, check behind on the turn (but I prefer your line).
Hand 5: Why are you betting on that flop anyways? What hands do we get value from? What stronger hands are we bluffing?
Hand 6: If villain is somewhat good, it's an easy check behind on the river.

[no eff eks]

Jebus that's a lot of hands...

First hand... yeah, I think I fold to a big raise from such a tight player on that flop. I don't think shoving was horrible though.

Second hand... I like it.

Third hand... 4bet preflop; flop I like your donk bet and I'm never folding to his shove.

Fourth hand... 3bet bigger preflop; post flop is good.

Fifth hand... fold preflop, fold flop.

Sixth hand... I like your line, but I prefer much smaller bets on the turn/river to encourage calls from mid pocket pairs. By betting so large you're really narrowing his range and giving up some value imo.

[Aji89]

Originally Posted by no eff eks

Fifth hand... fold preflop, fold flop.

Since he's in position and 200BB deep can't the pre flop call be justified or is a 17/9's 3 betting range just too narrow despite the fact OP opened from the CO?

[ThatDeviant]

Yeah folding AQs to a small 3bet in position deep is a mistake.

[zayphod]

Hand 5 I am calling IP. If you have been raising from the CO and button a lot he may just be playing back at you as well. I think I am checking behind on the flop though. Even if he is playing back at you, a 3-bet followed by a check is fishy as hell to me.

From there on who knows maybe I check call for pot control or maybe I give him credit and fold (I am less inclined to believe he has a J when the second one comes: although I have been caught numerous times with this )

[no eff eks]

Originally Posted by ThatDeviant

Yeah folding AQs to a small 3bet in position deep is a mistake.

No it's not. For one thing his range has us absolutely crushed. A player with those stats is not 3betting AQ -- his range is JJ+/AKs/AKo.

If we are going to take this line post flop then it's a definitely fold preflop. Just because AQ is a good hand doesn't make it good against this kind of player. Unless we have a very loose image this is a very easy fold pre flop. Definitely a fold on the flop facing the c/r.

[TheDeKay]

Originally Posted by ThatDeviant

Yeah folding AQs to a small 3bet in position deep is a mistake.

No, folding AQs to a small 3bet SHORTSTACKED is a mistake The deeper it gets, the less value do you get from TPTK-typ hands. It's very hard to flop "the nuts" /w AQ and it's not sooo easy to play it postflop.
Assuming, that your opponent is 3betting light, you could call and play a TPTK careful, but do not get involved /w a hand like AQ in a huge 400BB pot (most of the time).

[ThatDeviant]

AQs has a ton of deepstacked value because it can make the nuts.

Baluga explains it better in his CT videos but yeah, folding is pretty bad (unless you can't fold TP later)