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Old 01-14-2009, 09:20 PM
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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($12.85)
Button ($14.02)
SB ($4.90)
BB ($15.09)
UTG ($3.34)
Hero (MP) ($9.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5, 4
1 fold, Hero raises $0.40, CO calls $0.40, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.95) 4, 10, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.15) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.70, CO raises $3.85, Hero calls $2.15

River: ($9.85) A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4.75, Hero calls $4.75 (All-In)

Total pot: $19.35


Is it fine to go broke with a weak 2-pair in this spot? bet/fold on the turn is too weak, isn't it?
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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($22.40)
SB ($6.04)
BB ($6.58)
UTG ($4.14)
Hero (MP) ($14.54)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, J
1 fold, Hero raises $0.40, 2 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) 5, 8, 10 (2 players)
BB bets $0.10, Hero raises $0.60, BB calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.05) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.05) A (2 players)
BB bets $5.58 (All-In), Hero calls $5.58

Total pot: $13.21

what's the correct line here? I should fold on the river, should I?
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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($14.28)
Hero (SB) ($13.60)
BB ($10)
UTG ($17.63)
MP ($13.39)
CO ($9.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A
3 folds, Button calls $0.10, Hero raises $0.50, 1 fold, Button calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.20) 9, 8, Q (2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button raises $4.20, Hero raises $12.05 (All-In), Button raises $9.53 (All-In)

Turn: ($27.30) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($27.30) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $27.30


Bet/Fold flop would be the correct line, I guess? I'm always very insecure what to do. I'm not new to Poker, I've actually been playing a 20BB-shortstack strategy at NL50-NL200 for a long time but due to this strategy I'm really lacking good postflopskills.

Greetz,
simon
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:53 PM
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Anyone that posts hands, please include reads on villains. Everything is so villain dependent, that these hands are very hard to analyze without villain tendencies. And if you aren't noticing villain tendencies, lessen the amount of tables, or pay more attention.

1) Fold pre please, no need to get fancy. Also refill to 100bbs every time u go down. I think that hand is okay. Just shows how much being oop sucks. On a more drawy flop, im 3betting all in that turn. On that board, when he reraises turn and then bets river, i don't think im ahead a lot, but getting 3:1 on , i have to call.

2)I fold river here. Fish that overbet on the river usually means they were trying to slow play and then realized they are on the river, and want to get it all in. Don't see how im ever ahead in this spot. Unless you have a note taht villain is crazy, and would play busted draws like this, But most fish dont have the balls to do this.

3)Ugly ugly spot. Bet/fold. That nails his range, and you dont ever beat anything when he reraises except a pure bluff. Kings woulda probably 3bet , AQ/KQ wouldn't raise this big, and you only have a flip against a combo draw. I don't really see gutshots or flushdraws raising that big on that board. I except a set or a straight very often. Whenever TJ is the nuts in a hand, they villain usually has it ^^ *sarcasmm...*
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:48 PM
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Hand 1: Im shoving to the turn reraise. If he has a set so be it, or if he was flushing then bummer.

Hand 2: I reluctantly fold the river (at least my brain would say this. If I follow through is another thing altogether )

Hand 3: I do the same as you. He limped in then called a raise (so I dont give him a huge hand here). He may have 2 pair etc, but what the hell you have dem big aces baby His massive 3-bet looks strange to me as well. So the push is probably where I go as well. After he calls I shrink a little.

The last hand is probably where I am going to go ah fark it. But he could have also limped AQ or any number of hands here. Sure he might have a set but sometimes I have to see As stated before without any reads on the villains it can be a bit hard to tell.
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Old 01-15-2009, 02:30 AM
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Hey Simon Schön dich ma postn zu sehn ^^ Post des nächste mal noch die Holdem-Manager stats von denen mit. Zumindest VPIP/PFR/AF ... dann hat man so nen groben Eindruck.

Hand1: Shove turn to avoid a negative freeroll. I'm fine with opening /w small sc from Hijack...
Hand2: That is so villain dependend! There are guys, where I would fist pump-snap call the river... Without stats it's really hard to say... a fold is probably better.
On the river our hand is underrept. since we hit our A and we looked pretty weak. There are some players, that just shove air here on the river, but others do it only with the nuts.
Hand3: Pokerstove some ranges and you'll find the answer yourself. We are pretty much crushed here, if he only does this /w combo-draws and 2pair+. We would need him to play KQ and AQ like that, to make it somewhat +EV to 3bet shove here. Since I expect ppl that limp-call to have way more drawing hands in their range than TP-hands, bet-fold should be the best line here.
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