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Old 02-25-2009, 07:00 PM
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Default Tough river spots

Some horrible hands from todays sess. Think I should have checked the river on hand 2.

iPoker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - iPoker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($19.70)
Hero (MP) ($20)
Button ($28.04)
SB ($27.87)
BB ($36.42)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J, A
1 fold, Hero bets $0.70, Button calls $0.70, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.70) 8, 6, J (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, Button calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.10) A (2 players)
Hero bets $2.40, Button calls $2.40

River: ($8.90) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button raises to $23.74 (All-In), Hero calls $10.70 (All-In)

Total pot: $40.30 | Rake: $1

iPoker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (5 handed) - iPoker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($10.56)
Button ($20.92)
Hero (SB) ($32.67)
BB ($19.90)
UTG ($21.19)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8, 8
3 folds, Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.60) 2, 3, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.40, BB calls $1.40

Turn: ($4.40) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.80, BB calls $2.80

River: ($10) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.60, BB raises to $14.90 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $21.20 | Rake: $1

iPoker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (6 handed) - iPoker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($23.50)
MP ($20)
CO ($39.38)
Hero (Button) ($20)
SB ($21.61)
BB ($10.71)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 7
UTG calls $0.20, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.90, 1 fold, BB calls $0.70, UTG calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.80) 8, J, A (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.20, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.20

Turn: ($7.20) 10 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4.60, UTG calls $4.60

River: ($16.40) 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $8.20, Hero folds

Total pot: $16.40 | Rake: $0.82
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Old 02-25-2009, 10:17 PM
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hand 1 - call
hand 2 - check river, but fold now
hand 3 - yuck, i probably fold river
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Old 02-25-2009, 10:31 PM
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Hand 1 - call + pretty standart line
Hand 2 - c/c river to get bluff by busted draws // Edit: didn't notice the 10c... maybe just c/f here.
Hand 3 - bet more on turn; I call on the river... he might make a "blockbet" /w 2pair and the only hands that beat us are AQ and KQ (that called the flop).
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Old 02-26-2009, 05:25 AM
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Last hand, I call. canīt see many Q hands he limp-called preflop and two streets postflop.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:44 AM
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Im usually such a spewbag on the river when i have 2 pair+. My hand twitchs to the call button way too often. Hand 1 he had K8ss for the nut flush. Start of a terrible sesh where i got set over set an my 98 on k989 board got trashed by KK in a limped pot.

Hand 3 was influenced by a hand at another table where the guy limp/called utg with AQo an I took him to town with my AK. It could be a blocker bet but villain was fairly passive and this is the first time he bet the river in 240 hands.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:07 PM
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Hand 1: Call, but I think you should have gone for a check-call line on the river as you have show down value but are still dead to a lot of hands.

Hand 2: I don't like this hand. Unless you put him on an overpair or a set or flush draw (I almost never put him on a ten here) this is a good spot to let the villain bluff at the river plus it keeps the pot from going nuts with your underpair. So I advocate to check call.

Hand 3: nasty but I think the fold is ok here as any Q has you beat and his beat sizing on the river leans toward value rather than blocker or bluff.
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:10 PM
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First hand you can probably bet bigger on the turn, otherwise nh.

Second hand... I probably c/c the river instead of value betting because it's really tough for villain to call with worse.

Third hand... wow that's disgusting, but nh.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:49 AM
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Noticed a pretty big leak. Your turn bet sizing is too small in all 3 hands. Especially hand 1. You need to bet enough on the turn so that you could get he rest of the money in on the river with just 1 potsized bet. If that's not possible, you at least need to set up a BIG value bet on the river. You have no idea how much value you're missing in hand 1 for example. He was never folding pair+FD on that turn for a potsized bet even, in fact he was almost getting direct pot odds to call there + huge implied odds if you're calling a shove on the river, So you also need to bet big to protect your hand from all the draws out there.

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