NL25: first hand in table /w AKs

[vissuuh]

This is obviously a fold, right? I'm getting 1:3 to call but I can only beat bluff and split the pot against other AK. My real question is though should I even be cbetting the flop here? I mean all I know from the villain is that he probably knows something about betsizing considering his PF raise and that he is 170 bb deep. Point being I rather consider him to be a decent player than bad player. Since there was 2 limpers in the pot already I would say it shuts small pocketpairs away leaving only 88,99 (if even those) and QQ that would fold here. So uhh?



Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players

Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker



MP: $29.95 (119.8 bb)

CO: $27.65 (110.6 bb)

BTN: $26.60 (106.4 bb)

SB: $42.50 (170 bb)

Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)

UTG: $28.35 (113.4 bb)



Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with K A

UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.65, 2 folds, SB calls $3.15



Flop: ($9.80) K T J (2 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, SB raises to $34.25

[ThatDeviant]

Yeah I fold.

[postoakpoker]

unless the villain is a nit, QQ does not fold pf.

[AdrienD]

wow this is sick spot, first it looks like insta-fold but then I pokerstoved it:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.567% 67.27% 03.30% 17315 849.00 { QQ-TT, AQs, KQs, AQo }
Hand 1: 29.433% 26.13% 03.30% 6727 849.00 { AhKh }
close but still a fold cause you are getting 2 to 1 (you need 33%), though if you add 1 more hand or crazy bluff that you beat its a call. I think this spot is close to neutral EV.
Calling and losing might put you on tilt for rest of session but folding isn't great either as your reraises will not get much respect but I think id still fold.

if you remove KQs its a clear fold:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 73.885% 70.40% 03.48% 16727 828.00 { QQ-TT, AQs, AQo }
Hand 1: 26.115% 22.63% 03.48% 5377 828.00 { AhKh }

[Aji89]

Yeah I fold too. So many hands that call your 3 bet have you crushed on that flop.

[ThatDeviant]

Originally Posted by AdrienD

wow this is sick spot, first it looks like insta-fold but then I pokerstoved it:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.567% 67.27% 03.30% 17315 849.00 { QQ-TT, AQs, KQs, AQo }
Hand 1: 29.433% 26.13% 03.30% 6727 849.00 { AhKh }
close but still a fold cause you are getting 2 to 1 (you need 33%), though if you add 1 more hand or crazy bluff that you beat its a call. I think this spot is close to neutral EV.
Calling and losing might put you on tilt for rest of session but folding isn't great either as your reraises will not get much respect but I think id still fold.

if you remove KQs its a clear fold:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 73.885% 70.40% 03.48% 16727 828.00 { QQ-TT, AQs, AQo }
Hand 1: 26.115% 22.63% 03.48% 5377 828.00 { AhKh }

He could also easily have TJ, KJ or KT as he's an unknown @ 25nl.

It's closer to (imo)..

Board: Kc Ts Jd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.145% 28.92% 08.22% 14603 4151.50 { AhKh }
Hand 1: 62.855% 54.63% 08.22% 27584 4151.50 { TT+, AQs+, KQs, JTs, AQo+, KQo, JTo }

..in which we're pretty crushed.

I had a spot like this months ago (exact same board and hand I think) and I stacked off and saw 2p.

I've leart a lot from that.

[vissuuh]

Would any of u just checked behind on the flop? Since there really are no hands we can get value from and very few hands we can get to fold.