NL50 bluff river

[meJNE]

Cake Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $50.00 BB (6 handed) - Cake-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($115.45)
Button ($49.50)
SB ($89.65)
meJNE (BB) ($74.60)
UTG ($17.63)
MP ($50.70)

Preflop: meJNE is BB with 10:club:, J:club:
2 folds, CO calls $50, 1 fold, SB bets $2.50, meJNE calls $2.00, 1 fold

Flop: ($5.50) A:heart:, 2:club:, K:spade: (2 players)
SB bets $4.25, meJNE calls $4.25

Turn: ($14.00) J:diamond: (2 players)
SB checks, meJNE bets $8.75, SB calls $8.75

River: ($31.50) 6:heart: (2 players)
SB checks, [color=#CC3333] meJNE ???

Can I fire this river ? What exactly im trying to get him to fold ?

[boomswitch]

1 Don't call with JTs vs a player isolating a limper from the blinds his hand range has your crushed and the pot will already be bloated greatly devaluing any sc hand.

2 This is not a flop to be floating since it just nails his range (im really surprised you didn't get stack a donked tbh)

3 betting the river would be complete spew, no hands that would cb the flop and c/c the turn are folding.

If you are trying to steal this pot I suggest raising the flop c-bet and folding to a 3b, but then again you can't credibly rep a hand against a thinking opponent since you would have 3b AK AA and KK preflop and 22 is the only hand you could have that you would be raising with.

[Aji89]

Ok I'm gonna assume that the decimal points dissapeared in the hand history conversion cos I'm basically seeing a NL5000 hand which made me think I was trippin out the first time I read it.

Some stats/reads here would help us work out what range of hands he'd c/c the turn with. In a vacuum I just check behind. Our hand may be good at showdown now and then. A bluff is basically only going to get a K or QQ to fold and even then, it might not be certain.

[boomswitch]

How often is someone isolating a limper from the blinds with a K high hand or going to c/c a decent turn bet after getting his c bet called on an AKx flop with QQ. Villain will have ATs at the bare minimum imo. And if you can get an average 50nl player on Cake to fold a top pair hand you must be the best poker player ever because I've never seen it done.

[chinz]

Originally Posted by boomswitch

If you are trying to steal this pot I suggest raising the flop c-bet and folding to a 3b, but then again you can't credibly rep a hand against a thinking opponent since you would have 3b AK AA and KK preflop and 22 is the only hand you could have that you would be raising with.

Why not just 3bet preflop, which is more of a standard line than flatting with dominated hand... On the other hand, seeing a flop with suited connector (in position to raiser) with those stacks isn't too bad either... but just fold on the flop...

[meJNE]

ty for the reply so far

@ boom, i don understand the following sentences

the pot will already be bloated greatly devaluing any sc hand.

and

(im really surprised you didn't get stack a donked tbh)

my english is very bad :/


Preflop i still like the call, he iso with suited connectors, smallpairs, suited Aces, basicly any decent hand

I floaded the flop bc, first. this player was iso and than cbet flop alot and give up the turn. Stack size is allright for that play i guess. If i hit my gutter he never put me on that hand. Since he snap check / call the turn i thought he has a weak ace most of the time. I dunno what i though, what i represent on the river, if i bet.

[given1982]

I don't think you're going to get anyone to fold a pair at play money.

[boomswitch]

Since you have deeper stacks it doesn't affect the pot as much but:

Preflop/flop the pot is $5.50 instead of the usual $3.75 or $4
On the turn after cbets the pot is $14 instead of $10
On the river the pot is $31.5 instead of $22

You can even see that you got kind of scared on the turn, realized that the pot was getting kind of big already, and bet an amount that will likely be called by weaker hands (not talking about in relation to your hand, just in general like AT JA etc), make an 8.75 bet into a $10 pot and you are looking a lot stronger and he is folding a lot more of the time.

This is why when you flat an UTG raise with a hand like 76s OTB and you get squeezed on the correct play most of the time is to pitch it

[ShoveOrFold]

Originally Posted by given1982

I don't think you're going to get anyone to fold a pair at play money.

lol