Failed bluff, but how's my sizing?

[mahhddgtp]

Thought I could get him off something like JJ-KK or a weak ace. Villain was attacking my BB from the SB.

[AdrienD]

I dont think you can get him to fold an ace very often on this river (if at all) so you can only fold out KK/QQ/Jx and draws.
you don't represent much on this board except for draws (SCs, QJ, KJ), AT/A9/(A5s/A2s) and maybe AJ (unless he doesnt think you 3bet AQ).
If he has never seen you valuebet AJ like this or an other ace he should have an easy call with Jx+ but I think most villains will fold Jx on river faced with a big bet not sure about KK I think you still will get called alot of the time by KK on the river.

You're turn&river sizing is alright against thinking players b/c it doesn't polarize your range that much (you could still have a weak ace) compared with betting pot on turn & river which polarizes much more to draws or 2p+.
Against 'stupid' players ("omgz a big bet!"-nits) betting big on turn and shoving river is prob best b/c they are likely to fold aces either on turn or river but those players are a rare kind @ 25NL.

[TheDeKay]

I don't like the river-bluff, since we have showdown-value now. If we didn't hit that 2 on the river I might fire out ~5$ to fold better flushdraws or QJ/87, but with the pair I don't see any value in bluffing, so I just check behind here.

[ThatDeviant]

To be fair, it didn't really give us any showdown value against the range we're trying to fold out. He's defined his range as a pair+gutshot, some ace, a pair+flushdraw and occasionally some naked flush draws. If you think you can make him fold most of those, then betting is obviously good, because checking behind here thinking you now have showdown value (you don't) is kind of a bad alternative.

[TheDeKay]

Originally Posted by ThatDeviant

He's defined his range as a pair+gutshot, some ace, a pair+flushdraw and occasionally some naked flush draws.

What pair+gutshot-combos are out there? There are not too many pair+flushdraws possible...
Imo he's never folding an A here, cause he has played it so passivly and most ppl can't fold TP, if they "underrep" it.
Bad spot to 3barrel imo...

[ThatDeviant]

Theres enough. I'm not saying it's a good barrell spot, I'm just saying we don't really have showdown value.

[given1982]

The river is terrible--no one is folding on that card after calling the 2 previous barrels. Trying to fold out JJ-KK makes sense, but trying to get someone to fold a pair of aces at the micros is like burning money.

[mojo6911]

If you wanted a bluff, 3 bet preflop and get it in on the flop or turn with this board.