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Old 04-29-2008, 02:26 AM
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On each of the following hands I shut down after my flop cbet. Each time the opponent was very fishy.

Hand #1

Table 'Abetti V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: FunyPoker;-) ($10.90 in chips)
Seat 2: Nimbus1982 ($23 in chips)
Seat 3: The Unit111 ($3.35 in chips)
Seat 5: luckydikke ($24 in chips)
Seat 6: Houserocker ($30.65 in chips)
Nimbus1982: posts small blind $0.10
The Unit111: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Houserocker [Qs Ah]
luckydikke: calls $0.25
Houserocker: raises $1 to $1.25
FunyPoker;-): folds
Nimbus1982: folds
The Unit111: folds
luckydikke: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [4h 8c 5h]
luckydikke: checks
Houserocker: bets $2.25
luckydikke: calls $2.25
*** TURN *** [4h 8c 5h] [7s]
luckydikke: checks
Houserocker: checks
*** RIVER *** [4h 8c 5h 7s] [Jd]
luckydikke: checks
Houserocker: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
luckydikke: shows [2s 2h] (a pair of Deuces)
Houserocker: mucks hand
luckydikke collected $7 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.35 | Rake $0.35
Board [4h 8c 5h 7s Jd]
Seat 1: FunyPoker;-) (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Nimbus1982 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: The Unit111 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: luckydikke showed [2s 2h] and won ($7) with a pair of Deuces
Seat 6: Houserocker mucked [Qs Ah]


Hand #2

PokerStars Game #17060411908: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) -
2008/04/28 - 16:58:12 (ET)
Table 'Abetti V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: FunyPoker;-) ($13.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Nimbus1982 ($17.10 in chips)
Seat 3: The Unit111 ($4.65 in chips)
Seat 4: bigtimin ($37.75 in chips)
Seat 5: luckydikke ($24.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Houserocker ($32.70 in chips)
bigtimin: posts small blind $0.10
luckydikke: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Houserocker [Kd Ac]
Houserocker: raises $0.75 to $1
FunyPoker;-): folds
Nimbus1982: calls $1
The Unit111: folds
bigtimin: folds
luckydikke: folds
*** FLOP *** [5h 6h 3h]
Houserocker: bets $1
Nimbus1982: calls $1
*** TURN *** [5h 6h 3h] [Qd]
Houserocker: checks
Nimbus1982: bets $2
Houserocker: folds
Nimbus1982 collected $4.15 from pot
Nimbus1982: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.35 | Rake $0.20
Board [5h 6h 3h Qd]
Seat 1: FunyPoker;-) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Nimbus1982 collected ($4.15)
Seat 3: The Unit111 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: bigtimin (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: luckydikke (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Houserocker folded on the Turn


Hand #3

PokerStars Game #17059828651: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) -
2008/04/28 - 16:34:22 (ET)
Table 'Abetti V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: japo19 ($22 in chips)
Seat 2: Nimbus1982 ($32.05 in chips)
Seat 3: DeadNutz ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 4: bigtimin ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Ialogen ($42.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Houserocker ($24 in chips)
bigtimin: posts small blind $0.10
Ialogen: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Houserocker [Ad Kc]
Houserocker: raises $0.75 to $1
japo19: calls $1
Nimbus1982: calls $1
DeadNutz: folds
bigtimin: folds
Ialogen: folds
*** FLOP *** [6h 3h 9s]
Houserocker: bets $2
japo19: calls $2
Nimbus1982: folds
*** TURN *** [6h 3h 9s] [3s]
Houserocker: checks
japo19: bets $5.25
Houserocker: folds
japo19 collected $7 from pot
japo19: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.35 | Rake $0.35
Board [6h 3h 9s 3s]
Seat 1: japo19 collected ($7)
Seat 2: Nimbus1982 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: DeadNutz (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: bigtimin (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Ialogen (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Houserocker folded on the Turn



Against these opponents, it was almaost impossible to put them on a hand. Is it pretty standard to shut down in these spots, or is double barreling a better option?

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Old 04-29-2008, 08:30 AM
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First hand, no. That card not only hits his range it obviously misses yours.

Second hand, yes. Great card to double barrel on imo.

Third hand, no. Complete brick on the turn, you'll get zero credit here.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:43 PM
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double barrel hand #2 the other hands are simple shutdown.
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by no eff eks View Post
First hand, no. That card not only hits his range it obviously misses yours.

Second hand, yes. Great card to double barrel on imo.

Third hand, no. Complete brick on the turn, you'll get zero credit here.
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See above

On hand #1, your CBet sizing looks small.
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Old 04-30-2008, 05:25 PM
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cbet on hand #1 was $2.25 into a $2.85 pot...almost 80%
cbet on hand #2 was $1 into $2.35... pretty small, but I was trying to control the size of the pot from OOP. Also with that board, he was never folding ANY heart (even the 2), or a four, even in the face of the Q scare card. I've also found that donks calling all my bets with cheese (when I'm bluffing) is one of the main things that puts me on tilt, so I've been trying to avoid getting into those situations.
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Old 04-30-2008, 06:04 PM
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cbet on hand #2 was $1 into $2.35... pretty small, but I was trying to control the size of the pot from OOP. Also with that board, he was never folding ANY heart (even the 2), or a four, even in the face of the Q scare card. I've also found that donks calling all my bets with cheese (when I'm bluffing) is one of the main things that puts me on tilt, so I've been trying to avoid getting into those situations.
Yes, sorry, I meant the CBet on #2 was small (and exploitable).
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