KK on A high flop?

[mksmi]

When I find myself in this spot I'm never sure I making the right play. I feel like it's a weak play to just check this flop just because of the A, but is that correct? The villain was 75/55 over about 55 hands.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($10.35)
MP ($3.55)
Button ($3.65)
SB ($22.30)
Hero (BB) ($10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K
UTG bets $0.60, 3 folds, Hero raises $1.70, UTG calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.65) A, 4, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.60, UTG calls $2.60

Turn: ($8.85) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($8.85) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1

Total pot: $10.85

[given1982]

I 3bet a lot bigger preflop (2.10 - 2.40). I probably cbet this board (any fold to cbet stats?), but smaller than you did (~2 as played).

[mksmi]

Fold to c bet stat only had one or two hand sample. Your right I think i need to 3bet larger in these spots. The villain was making it .60 when ever he opened and in every position if that helps.

[TRD23]

As has been mentioned 3 bet needs to slightly higher.

One thing worth mentioning is that if you had QQ here and it was a K high flop you can quite often bet the turn for value here, depending on how much of a calling station the opponent is.

As played I think its fine, the problem with A high boards is that fish tend to be super scared of them so its rare for them to call here with anything but a weak ace.

With that said if the opponent is a huge calling station you should be betting this turn for value against all his weak pairs and club draws.

Paying attention to how fish act on A high boards is very important.

[chinz]

That call-check-bet line in 3bet pots is usually for value (with weak A), so I wouldn't expect that you are good too often here. When he bets only $1 on the river, you have to call anyway... His line could be QQ-99 too (or something completely stupid).

[mksmi]

Yea, I thought the 9:1 I was getting to call made it an ok call. I think as said before. When I get called on the flop it is almost always going to be an A.

[mksmi]

Originally Posted by TRD23

As has been mentioned 3 bet needs to slightly higher.

One thing worth mentioning is that if you had QQ here and it was a K high flop you can quite often bet the turn for value here, depending on how much of a calling station the opponent is.

As played I think its fine, the problem with A high boards is that fish tend to be super scared of them so its rare for them to call here with anything but a weak ace.

With that said if the opponent is a huge calling station you should be betting this turn for value against all his weak pairs and club draws.

Paying attention to how fish act on A high boards is very important.

Can you explain why QQ with a K high flop would be a much better situation?

[AdrienD]

Originally Posted by mksmi

Can you explain why QQ with a K high flop would be a much better situation?

Because fish tend to give alot less credit to you having a king so they call down much lighter which in turn makes it a less WA/WB situation than this hand.

[TRD23]

Originally Posted by mksmi

Can you explain why QQ with a K high flop would be a much better situation?

Partly due to fishes hand ranges including almost every Ax hand but predominately because of the fear factor from fish with A high boards.

This feeds into the same reason why against fish that call almost every cbet, I will still fire on almost every A high board but far less on K high and Q high.

Also when they do have an Ace they are "drawing live" so we can generally extract value with weak and marginal holdings.

[no eff eks]

As said, your 3bet size is way too small. You don't really need to cbet these boards with KK if you're comfortable being in some marginal/awkward situations, but if you are going to cbet and turn your hand into a bluff you need to bet waaaaay smaller. Making it 1bb over 1/2-pot is all you need to bet here, especially when he made such a huge open preflop. Betting ~3/4-pot like you did was pretty spewy.

River call is pretty standard as is the turn play.