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Old 05-01-2008, 12:10 PM
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Default AKo whiffs in 4 bet pot

villain was 32/15/3.3 over 115 hands.

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SB ($21.30)
BB ($25.90)
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CO ($50.05)
Button ($56.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, SB raises to $1.55, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5.85, SB calls $3.55.

Flop: ($11.20) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Hero???
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have to continuation bet here HU. One bet and then shut down, but im felting if any A or K hits.
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have to continuation bet here HU. One bet and then shut down, but im felting if any A or K hits.

but how much?
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have to continuation bet here HU. One bet and then shut down, but im felting if any A or K hits.
B/f doesn't really seem like an option here. SB only has $15 left, so even if you bet $5 (less than 1/2 pot), you'd be getting 3-1 to call a shove. I think that c/f, openshoving, and b/c are the only options, and I like them in that order.
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B/f doesn't really seem like an option here.
Agreed.

I'll check behind here a lot, and see what he does on the turn. It kind of sucks, but I think I'd just give this up on the turn if he leads (which going by his stats he almost surely will).

Or you can bet/call a shove. I really don't mind getting it in on the flop because you'll actually have him beat sometimes and you'll have 9 outs usually when you he has you beat. Just don't bet here unless you're okay with getting it all in.
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This is a very akward situation here. Usually, I am jamming AK as a 4 bet w/ position, but with him just min raising me, I couldn't realistically do it. At the same time, by 4 betting, I have left myself with an almost impossible situation on this particular flop as any cbet pot commits me and checking behind is awfully weak and just screams of a whiffed AK.
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What could he have, what is better than your hand and what you can make fold /w a CB?
The stats you have on villain say nothing about his handrange in a 4bet pot, so although he seems quite loose I think he has a pair or AJ+.
You won't fold a pair and would have to call a shove /w a worse hand, so take the free card and hope to hit something useful

I think I wouldn't 4bet here preflop, because your folding quite a lot of hands you want to play against
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