AK vs shortstack again, my blind spot

[nawhead]

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($3.28)
CO ($5.25)
Button ($2.14)
SB ($1.92)
Hero (BB) ($3.99)
UTG ($5.14)
MP1 ($1.34)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K
1 fold, MP1 bets $0.15, 3 folds, SB calls $0.13, Hero raises to $0.70, 1 fold, SB calls $0.55

Flop: ($1.55) 8, 8, Q (2 players)
SB bets $1.22 (All-In)

Got the backdoor flush draw... whee. Well played? I mean to villain.

[given1982]

It's easier to help you if you tell us something about villain.

You can consider just shoving preflop.

[urbansprawler]

Not sure I like a massive overshove preflop, as you are in position against one player here.

Getting better than 2:1 here, you're slightly losing money if behind but I think you see some FD's and assorted nonsense every now and then so calling can't be too -EV in vacuum as you don't need many hands you beat in his range for this to be +EV.

[couriermike]

I think your 3-bet size is a tad big, 4x or pot-sized, maybe pot + 1bb from the blinds, is fine. I like a fold on the flop. You didn't get the flop you wanted, you only have A-high, why continue? Especially since SB just bet out multi-way and there's still another player to act behind you. Save your chips for a profitable spot. When I stoved your hand against any two spades, any pocket pair, any Q or any 8, you were 25%.

[nawhead]

I don't know villain at all.

I had considered shoving preflop, but then I'm going for the "build a pot, take down the pot" philosophy in cash games with these AK spots. I don't really want to take down the 7 bb's out there. I want to build a medium pot then take it down, so I'm really pissed when the play's taken away from me.

So maybe my original intent is flawed in some way (especially against 2 shorties). I have no idea whether this build a pot with Ak thing (sorta like a expanded version of the everday single raise, cb, take down pot play) is profitable at these stakes or not.

I don't think I can profitably call here tho. If there's a flop that's good to bluff for villain, maybe this is it. But I think any pair for baseline is the minimum for microstakes, so not getting stubborn with AK only getting 2 to 1 on flop is prudent. I'm a station, I admit, I used to call (ok I still call sometimes) a lot in these spots when I shouldn't.

[chinz]

Originally Posted by urbansprawler

Not sure I like a massive overshove preflop, as you are in position against one player here.

Both players are less than 40bb, I think shove is fine.

What kind of advantage do you think position gives us with those stack sizes? It doesn't really matter who sticks it in if there's a 3/4 pot bet left. The importance of position get lower as pot gets bigger in relation to stacks and when it gets into extremes like this (over 30% of effective stacks in preflop) position doesn't matter.

Getting better than 2:1 here, you're slightly losing money if behind but I think you see some FD's and assorted nonsense every now and then so calling can't be too -EV in vacuum as you don't need many hands you beat in his range for this to be +EV.

Against spewy bad players I would always call this, against someone who's like 30/5/1 I might fold.

[nawhead]

I can shove profitably here, right? Why am I trying to build a pot against shortstacks? I can take down 7bb's while only risking 40bb... I was wrongly thinking about my stack instead of short's stacks. I really have been playing AK wrong!

Whoa... I just got a head rush. TY!