5NL and below HUD

[FeckMyBankroll]

Just made this 6m cash HUD(PT3) and looking for diff opinions on how it could be improved?

or what's irrelevant and can be taken out? or what am I missing, like last 5 pots won, considering just making this as a popup for the table stats for 20 hands.....

Unfortunately didn't get time to play a proper session and take snaps of HUD with the stats in context but I am sure you'll get the jist of things.

Top: VPIP, PFR, AFq, AF (Hands)
Left: Cbet Flop / Fold2Cbet, Cbet Turn / Fold2Turn Cbet, 3B, Fold to 3B
Right: Call Pfr / Cold CallPF, At2Steal /Att2Steal & Folded, Won$WSF / WTSD
Bottom: Check Raise total, F%when bet/raise flop, Steal Success% ( x / y)



Steal Pop ups below.



In the middle of table theres the boring Standard table average stats

Not created a pop up for left, right yet or even table averages, not sure if its worth it or not, if I do I think right hand side would prolly be best being results and showdown orientated and left hand side being, agression, etc, limp/fold, limp reraise, 3bet flop, etc.

[ShoveOrFold]

I think at 5nl, having too many stats would hurt your game.

I think VPIP/PFR/AF (hands)
3bet/ Cbet/Fold cbet/ Steal

Anything else you really need can be found by the popup menu. But I think keeping it simple at 5nl is the way to go. Most people don't even know what a light 3bet , double barrel, attempt to steal even is/means.

I think it will just be better for you to play with these general stats, that way you don't live and die by the stats.

[Vantek]

Haha, I'm at 25NL and only think I have different from your list is instead of 3bet I have WTSD. Very rarely feel like any other stat could be helpful.

[chinz]

Originally Posted by ShoveOrFold

I think at 5nl, having too many stats would hurt your game.

I think VPIP/PFR/AF (hands)
3bet/ Cbet/Fold cbet/ Steal

I would also add "fold to 3bet" since at those levels there is some guys who never fold to 3bets. But otherwise I use the same HUD setup than you.

[uofi2012]

Agree with above for 5NL all you really need are VPIP PFR AF HD CB FCB ST FST

at 25 and 50NL i only use above +3b,f3b,2b,f2b custom pop ups are nice for stuff like squeezes, donks, c/r's, street by street aggression and showdown stuff.

for 5NL I would say have a simpler HUD and just play more tables trying to move up as fast as you can

[nawhead]

Extensive stats like these become slightly useful if you have thousands of hands or more on villains.

At 5NL where you'll rarely play with anybody else more than 200 hands, it's just random numbers that clutter up your decision making.

I just use PFR and VPIP now. I added in some other stats at times to see if helped me out in some special spots, but it was very rare. So for those times, I just use the popup now.

The most stats I regularly used was VPIP/PFR/3bet pre/Steal/CB. Basically, the stats where you can get lots of data points or when a lot of money goes in. Because with a stat like PFR+CB a player can have bet the sum of his entire stack in just a 50 hand sample. Seriously, these bets happen at such a high rate that it just overshadowws all other stats.

(but nowadays, I think a stat like Steal % is related to PFR, so I think this as well as fold to steal (very closely related to VPIP) are sorta redundant stats)

Stuff like the cold call pre, how does that help me exploit villain? VPIP tells me more than cold call. I guess you can try to make some extrapolation about VPIP wrt cold call gives me X range where he doesn't have this or that in this spot, but again, your head's exploding with this super stat analysis when just making good basic decisions at microstakes using the high freq stats will win you money.

[urbansprawler]

Here are absolute essentials for micros:

Line 1: VPIP/PFR/Limp-call (or limp-fold)/Call Open
Line 2: 3-bet/F3B/C-bet/FCB
Line 3: WTSD/W$SD/AF/Hands

Best HUD setup ever.

Learn it.

Use it.

Love it.
















Marry it.

EDIT: Steal/fold-to-steal are dependent on your style but the former you can get in the HEM popup so I think only the latter is worthwile to put in the HUD.

[FeckMyBankroll]

Thanks for the comments.

Originally Posted by chinz

I would also add "fold to 3bet" since at those levels there is some guys who never fold to 3bets. But otherwise I use the same HUD setup than you.

Cheers chinz, soz I didn't put that I have f23b next to 3bet-not sure why I didnt write it down!

Originally Posted by nawhead

Stuff like the cold call pre, how does that help me exploit villain? VPIP tells me more than cold call. I guess you can try to make some extrapolation about VPIP wrt cold call gives me X range where he doesn't have this or that in this spot, but again, your head's exploding with this super stat analysis when just making good basic decisions at microstakes using the high freq stats will win you money.

Well I used to play alot on smaller sites at 2NL/4NL(boss.. vvvvvv soft!!) and if you ever play these games you'll understand the Call pre flop% is the best fish detector you'll ever have in your hud. I would choose Call pre flop% over the big three any day every day @ these nano stakes.

Diff hud has changed my game, session swings have been bigger and more frequent but I am seizing opportunities that before I just wasn't brave enough to make any money from. I will take note tho and make sure that I play basic 3/no hud as well to keep me on my toes!

Next pop up is going to limp call, limp fold related.... its work in progress for me.

The funny thing is in some sessions I am playing like 32/28 (+10%) which is great for my table image!