{50NL} Second pair to board

[urbansprawler]

Villain looks fishy, 63/13/2 over only 8 hands.

PokerStars Game #32372118922: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2009/09/02 21:30:10 ET
Table 'Vaticana X' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: urbansprawle ($53.65 in chips)
Seat 2: skilledfi$h ($46.25 in chips)
Seat 3: active01 ($11.50 in chips)
Seat 4: spark929 ($52.95 in chips)
Seat 5: meu cao ($15.75 in chips)
Seat 6: ShawnyRotten ($53.70 in chips)
spark929: posts small blind $0.25
meu cao: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to urbansprawle [9s 9c]
ShawnyRotten: folds
urbansprawle: raises $1.50 to $2
skilledfi$h: folds
active01: calls $2
spark929: folds
meu cao: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [2s Kd 8c]
meu cao: checks
urbansprawle: bets $3
active01: folds
meu cao: calls $3
*** TURN *** [2s Kd 8c] [7c]
meu cao: checks
active01 said, "sleepy"
urbansprawle: checks
*** RIVER *** [2s Kd 8c 7c] [7d]
meu cao: bets $10.75 and is all-in
active01 said, "real sleepy"
urbansprawle: folds
Uncalled bet ($10.75) returned to meu cao
meu cao said, "tu"
meu cao collected $11.70 from pot
meu cao: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.25 | Rake $0.55
Board [2s Kd 8c 7c 7d]
Seat 1: urbansprawle folded on the River
Seat 2: skilledfi$h folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: active01 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: spark929 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: meu cao (big blind) collected ($11.70)
Seat 6: ShawnyRotten folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Silverthunder]

you probably still fold there without any reads. Those fish like Kx hands.

[urbansprawler]

Well, I was more interested on the turn.

Also, would you bet QQ on turn?

[couriermike]

I like checking the flop and seeing what he does.

I also like the line you took, c-bet and give up if called, but a bigger c-bet around $4.75. I would not 2barrel this player with 99-QQ because he's never folding any K and he's so short.

Good fold on the river.

[urbansprawler]

Well, obviously I would bet 99 for value and not as a bluff. QQ and 99 are a bit different here imo, not sure how much.

Also, I don't like checking this flop. It is multiway and I am very likely giving up as many as 12 outs. I do like a larger cbet since I won't be betting future streets.

[Michaellawrw]

Fold river.

[AdrienD]

Originally Posted by urbansprawler

Well, obviously I would bet 99 for value and not as a bluff. QQ and 99 are a bit different here imo, not sure how much.

Also, I don't like checking this flop. It is multiway and I am very likely giving up as many as 12 outs. I do like a larger cbet since I won't be betting future streets.

I think your cbet on this flop vs that guy is ok, but I like checking behind more and then betting turn and river on low cards so you get him to call or bluff with a much wider range.
EDIT: woops didnt see it was 3way, yeah then cbetting 99 is better than checking.

As played, turn is fine check. Sure you can get value from 8x and some PPs, but he will have you beat more often than he will call with the hands you beat.

with QQ I would go check/bet/bet on this dry board because I am only scared of an ace and I he will have nothing a lot of the time so I want to give him a chance to bluff on turn and at same time control the size of the pot for the times he has a K or better.
If he checks turn I would bet it (assuming it is not an ace) and if he calls then, I would bet T or lower river and proooobably just check behind J+ rivers because these fish look at their hand in absolute value and not relative value.