good shove?

[djoe77]

villain is 14/3 over 30 hands..


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($17.10)
Button ($6.55)
Hero (SB) ($11.35)
BB ($11.50)
UTG ($9.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, A
3 folds, Hero bets $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) K, 6, J (2 players)
Hero bets $0.45, BB raises to $1.70, Hero raises to $11.05 (All-In), BB calls $9.35

Turn: ($22.70) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($22.70) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $22.70 | Rake: $1.10

[given1982]

Only if you feel like gambling with the worst of it. This is the best case scenario:

Board: Kc 6c Jd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.614% 44.48% 00.13% 7486 22.50 { AcQc }
Hand 1: 55.386% 55.25% 00.13% 9299 22.50 { KK+, JJ, 66, KJs, QTs }

[urbansprawler]

I think you're being far too tight. This is 10NL and it's only been 30 hands. I like a shove, this hand is too hard to play profitably any other way imo.

[csfanatikdbz]

I agree with urbansprawler. given, Your range for the villain here is too tight imo. I think the villain sometimes does that with a weaker flush or straight draw there, as well as AA if they slow played it preflop. How do you play this hand here, given? I can see calling the raise and re-evaluating on turn, but I prefer the line taken.

[Nostalgica]

Yes, I think that's too tight as it gives no raise/fold range (if there is no raise/fold range we should not shove) or dominated draws aside from QT (T9?) or one pair hands with which our A is an out.

I think calling would be fine, to be honest. Shove's not bad with FE but it is true that any FE is negligible.

[csfanatikdbz]

Originally Posted by Nostalgica

I think calling would be fine, to be honest. Shove's not bad with FE but it is true that any FE is negligible.

what do we do on a missed turn, c/f?

[podbelski]

I don't think a shove can be bad here.

If you call the flop, I expect him to check behind the blank turn sometimes. If he bets, it is a an easy check-call unless he overbets. Lead the river when you hit the nuts, check-call an A, check-fold if missed.

[given1982]

I wouldn't expect villain to have much of a raise/fold range, and I haven't seen any stoves that justify calling from people saying my stove is too tight--not to mention that some people criticizing my stove didn't even bother to read it, as they said it was missing hands that it included. Adding in all the hands you guys thought I left out doesn't really change much:

Board: Kc 6c Jd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.437% 47.19% 00.25% 14483 75.50 { AcQc }
Hand 1: 52.563% 52.32% 00.25% 16056 75.50 { KK+, JJ, 66, AKs, KJs+, QTs, JcTc, Tc9c, AKo }

[Nostalgica]

47% is a hella lot... that's better than AK vs QQ, and def better than AK vs JJ+ AK

[csfanatikdbz]

given, the pot odds more than make up for the slightly bad equity in your worst case scenario situation.