QQ line needs rewiew

[ourfarmpica]

The only read on the villain is: He lost 1BI on 20 hands. He is loose passive pre most the time, on the flop he is very agg. In numbers 36/0 pre, 7 flop agg. Fold to Cbet 50%.


Podbelski, Its looks like the hand with the JJ but here i didnt donk. I cant keep the role of aggressor in the party. Is this a big problem how should i act? I was expecting an AJ, but an JJ 77 can act like this too.


Stacks:
UTG ERM25 ($1.30)
UTG+1 SKATEBLIND ($4.19)
CO MIKEYFLIES ($4.06)
BTN Hero ($4.31)
SB CAPT747 ($1.73)
BB FISHYLUCKY ($3.86)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 6 players) Hero is BTN Q :spade: Q :diamond:
ERM25 raises to $0.04, SKATEBLIND calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, ERM25 folds, SKATEBLIND calls $0.16

Flop: J :spade: 4 :club: 7 :diamond: ($0.47, 2 players)
SKATEBLIND checks, Hero bets $0.36, SKATEBLIND raises to $0.98, Hero calls $0.62

Turn: 8 :club: ($2.43, 2 players)
SKATEBLIND goes all-in $3.01,

[tmiby]

20 Hands is to less for profiling your villain. But I'm sure he really is a station.
I think he is holding here a J ver often. Because he is very loose pre and overcalling. I see many Jx hands in his range...JT+.
Of course he can have sets there. I don't care.
Since he seems very aggro postflop, I call. Probably 3betting the flop is also an option.

[ourfarmpica]

Thanks Tmiby!


I was thinking the same but on the turn the 8 was a hard card because if he take me on Ak the flop didnt hit me but he can have 87o/s many times calling preflop raise...

[podbelski]

You are deep, this makes things tougher. And 20 hands are too small of a sample to rely on things like AF, maybe he hit a hand each time that's why played aggro. Very good if you can remind exact hands he played aggro on the flop to get some idea what is he doing...

If it was 100bb deep I'd say shoving the flop or calling to shove any turn are good. Definitely you can be beat in many ways: AA/2pair/sets. But there is a big possibility he bluffs you off AK or have one pair hand.

Now, you are deep, and this is NL2 and a guy check-raises you, and you basically do not have a good idea wtf is going on. I do think calling the flop > raising. The turn makes 78 & J8 two-pair, completes 9T as well (I think he could play it like that).

What surprizes me is overshove while deep, TBH I don't know what does this mean @NL2 He can be tilty after losing a BI (btw, why he is deepstacked then?) and pushing you in anger. He can be tilty and hit the flop hard (or turned you) and just can't see any other button other than all-in.

So, on the turn, I think both calling and folding are ok. Calling is high variance

[ourfarmpica]

Yes exactly! I think it was a tilt he had QKo. He tried to pull me out from the pot. If he raise some like half or 3/4 pot i fold it but like this looked me he realized this is the only way for him to win. I wont make a habit any way to call these bet in this kind of situations...


Thanks a lot!

[tmiby]

I didn't realize it is deep...is it 2NL?

[ourfarmpica]

Ultimate bet have NL2 deep stack tables, most the time i play 100bb deep but this table was soo fishy loose and weak i couldn't resist to play.

[Nostalgica]

At 2NL he can be bluffing pure air and also value betting worse. Because there are no draws, calling flop is fine, but we do this with intention of staking off.

[H_H_H]

Flop is a mandatory 3bet IMO because there are so few turn cards we want to see. An A, K, J, T, 9, 8, 7, or 6 all make calling/raising a turn bet more difficult because of overcards, straights, trips or 2 pairs they bring in for a player like this. It's just going to be hard to get it in good on the turn unless its against a hand we could have stacked on the flop anyway (or villain is known to shove air). 3betting flop folds out all pure bluffs, but gets max value against everything else we are beating.

Originally Posted by Nostalgica

In No Limit Hold'em, he can be bluffing pure air and also value betting worse. Because there are few good draws, calling flop is better than folding, but we do this with intention of staking off.

FYP!