NL50 rush: AA squeezed 3way pot - bluff the river?

[podbelski]

Fckn poker!

It took me 4 days to win back previous 4.5BI loss, I even ended up "with interest", and now again... Down 5BI in 1600 hands session.

Not too many big pots I've lost, set runned into quads, then tilty river call with AA (that was last hand in a session), and this hand. Other hands I was just missing and missing boards, or sucked upon by hopeless hands losing 10-20 bbs per pot played...

Back to aces, the MP guy requested time to make a preflop call decision. With two callers, I decided not to bet the flop cause the pot is so big already and I don't want to make a bet just to see them folding or putting all-in. Basically, if I bet the flop I'm happy to be called by AQ. Other hands are JJ/QQ/33, as well as big draws that I'm flipping with.

On the turn, I don't see other option than to call.

The river is interesting, do you take a showdown or bet there, and how much?


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

MP ($116.55)
CO ($16.95)
Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($50.75)
BB ($58.70)
UTG ($113.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A
UTG bets $2, MP calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $9.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $7.50, MP calls $7.50

Flop: ($29.25) 3, Q, J (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($29.25) J (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $11.50, Hero calls $11.50, 1 fold

River: ($52.25) Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $52.25 | Rake: $2.60

[practice]

What about AKdd/AJdd/KT/KQ or a slowplayed KK? What about any two cards with 2 diamonds?

You got an overpair in a 3bet pot on a drawy flop. BET THE FLOP and bet it big. I cannot see how giving free cards here would be a good play. Otherwise it will just lead to situations like this. If they got QQ/JJ then it's a cooler.

[podbelski]

Really, I do not see KT here at all. KQs is unlikely, and it is drawing to 5 outs. AJdd is not possible cause Jd is on the board. I think I'm flipping or behind any villain's stack-off range.

[practice]

So ur plan is to check down the 3-way pot all the way to the river and call one bet on the way?

As said, u got an over pair in a 3bet pot. Folding here is not an option and giving free cards is really nasty on this flop. Get it in on the flop.

Assuming he is stacking off here with: JJ-KK,AKdd, AQs, AQo
You're over 60% favourite! And this range is too narrow IMO, as I constantly see people calling 3-bets with KQ, KT type of hands..

I think the hand is quite similiar to the one you posted earlier where you check/called AK on a drawy flop in a 3bet pot. Just like there, betting/raising the flop just makes the play so much easier.

[tmiby]

I cbet this 100% of the time.
there are many Jx and Qx combinations that could pay you off in a 3bet pot.
if they don't have anything, they wont pay you off with weaker hands on later streets.
After all, almost any T,J,Q,K is a cooler for your hand. It easily completed draws and most likely: two pairs.
People like to play two broadway cards in 3bet pots. most often they gonna peel flop with "something" (1Pair, and draws). But they will only continue with made hands on later streets. don't let them get there!
force them to make mistakes right on the flop.

[urbansprawler]

Cbet that flop, you're ahead of so much and giving out free cards on that board is death.

[TheDeKay]

Omg, Cbet and get it in 100% of the time here! They might even call you with KQ here. Imo big leak to not bet to get it in here!!

[MOJO_ERASER]

yah dont understand the check thing.... are you trying to induce a bet? if so why would you even consider a fold? cbet...... or all in

[MOJO_ERASER]

all in if he has KQ may or may not get a fold.... If it was me I would be folding some other idiots might not. We are just assuming though he has the tptk

[podbelski]

Ok, I see what all of you are saying.

Yet I saved my stack this time, the MP was on pocket 33, my butt feeling was correct. I don't argue checking the flop is a correct play, it is more of when you've got coolered (or outflopped) again and again it is not easy to stick in another stack, at least for me... Basically, wanted to see comments on T/R as played.

The UTG double-checking made me think he gave up. Really, on the turn my only question was did the MP hit his set or not (or maybe has some kind of Jx)? So I was going to fold to any river bet, but once he checked it felt like I'm good or he has bottom full-house, and I haven't ever tried to push anyone from a boat